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Old 06-03-2013, 01:01 AM
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give me this week then ill def do it dude
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Old 10-13-2013, 12:22 PM
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Default Any San Marino blue with gun metal grey MB Battles?

I have looked through every page of the san marino blue thread in the color section Also googled with no luck..

Might be a long shot but curious on if anyone has a san marino blue Z with gun metal grey mb battles. Im trying to determine how dark grey would look on my Z with all the silver accents.
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Default Question re. MB Battle (18x9.5 +23)

I just bought my 350z (35th) a couple of weeks ago so excuse my lack of knowledge as I'm still learning about these cars.

This car will be driven 50/50 street and track.

For track use, I'm thinking about getting MB Battle wheels in 18x9.5 (+23 offset), with a square 255/40/18 tire setup. A couple of questions:

1) Will this clear the Brembos? I've searched and seen that 18x9.5 +15 fits fine, but I haven't seen +23 yet.

2) Will I need to adjust dial in negative front camber for clearance?

3) I prefer a square tire setup as this will help with stock understeer and rotation of tires, but will I run into problems with VDC/TC on the street? Or with ice-mode ABS on the track?

Thanks!

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Old 12-02-2013, 01:57 PM
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Tracking on MB Battles? I would not do that, they are cheap, low quality cast wheels which I would not run on the track

1) If it clears +15, +23 would have even more space to clear

2) No issues unless you run a massive tire

3) You will have SLIP light issues as defined within this thread if yuo run Square on a VDC enabled car

https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...read-here.html
Old 12-03-2013, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Waizzz
Tracking on MB Battles? I would not do that, they are cheap, low quality cast wheels which I would not run on the track

1) If it clears +15, +23 would have even more space to clear

2) No issues unless you run a massive tire

3) You will have SLIP light issues as defined within this thread if yuo run Square on a VDC enabled car

https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...read-here.html
They are just fine on the track, many are used and abused. The only prob is they bend easily , but really cheap to replace.
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I would rather run Enkei's for practically the same price

Seen too many cheap wheels crack to ever run that myself
Old 12-03-2013, 09:37 AM
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Thanks for the responses. I'm also considering Enkei RPF1's, but there's a $500 price difference between the two.
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Originally Posted by dontbrake
I just bought my 350z (35th) a couple of weeks ago so excuse my lack of knowledge as I'm still learning about these cars.

This car will be driven 50/50 street and track.

For track use, I'm thinking about getting MB Battle wheels in 18x9.5 (+23 offset), with a square 255/40/18 tire setup. A couple of questions:

1) Will this clear the Brembos? I've searched and seen that 18x9.5 +15 fits fine, but I haven't seen +23 yet.

2) Will I need to adjust dial in negative front camber for clearance?

3) I prefer a square tire setup as this will help with stock understeer and rotation of tires, but will I run into problems with VDC/TC on the street? Or with ice-mode ABS on the track?

Thanks!
the +15 will fit in the rear but with a 275/40 tire you will need to roll the fenders, i originally had a +23 in the rear with a 5mm spacer and it didnt rub. the +23 is now up front and fits great

Originally Posted by Waizzz
Tracking on MB Battles? I would not do that, they are cheap, low quality cast wheels which I would not run on the track

1) If it clears +15, +23 would have even more space to clear

2) No issues unless you run a massive tire

3) You will have SLIP light issues as defined within this thread if yuo run Square on a VDC enabled car

https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...read-here.html
there are alot of guys here that auto-x and drift on them, no issues.

i am running 9.5 on all corners and not running into issues, tires are 275/40 and 255/40
Old 12-10-2013, 03:30 PM
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Just ordered a set of 4 17x9.5 +15 Battles in gunmetal for my Chrome Silver Z. I have extended wheel studs already up front & a set of 10 more for the rear once I get a nice day to install them. I'll add small spacers down the road to even out the fitment front & rear. I'm considering Plastidipping them as well if I can figure out a good color. The rims will be wrapped in 235/40/17 Federal 595's all around so they can be rotated as I wear them down drifting. I'll put up pictures around New Year's.

Compared to the 18x9.5:
The smaller rim diameter means less unsprung mass and polar moment.
The shorter-than-stock tire diameter will make the car accelerate slightly quicker & lower it about 3/4 inch.
17 inch tires are cheaper than 18's, which will save a lot of money as I burn through many sets of tires.
Additional wheel gap isn't a concern because coilovers are part of my future plans.
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you wont need spacers, and with at 235 tire you are going to be pretty stretched... i would suggest a 245 or 255...... just look at em to make sure you are going to get what you like before you order tires and then try to drift on em and break the bead
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you are going to be an inch wider wheel than the factory rears with a tire that isnt as wide as the 245 rear stock
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Originally Posted by 1973camarolt
Just ordered a set of 4 17x9.5 +15 Battles in gunmetal for my Chrome Silver Z. I have extended wheel studs already up front & a set of 10 more for the rear once I get a nice day to install them. I'll add small spacers down the road to even out the fitment front & rear. I'm considering Plastidipping them as well if I can figure out a good color. The rims will be wrapped in 235/40/17 Federal 595's all around so they can be rotated as I wear them down drifting. I'll put up pictures around New Year's.

Compared to the 18x9.5:
The smaller rim diameter means less unsprung mass and polar moment.
The shorter-than-stock tire diameter will make the car accelerate slightly quicker & lower it about 3/4 inch.
17 inch tires are cheaper than 18's, which will save a lot of money as I burn through many sets of tires.
Additional wheel gap isn't a concern because coilovers are part of my future plans.
Those tires are 2 inches shorter than a stock front and 3 inches shorter than a stock rear. Not ever the hellagay fitment people run tires that small. Wheel gap, not that it matters other than looks, will be real hard to get rid of one the chassis is on the ground and you need to lower it more.
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Travlee, I'm considering a 5mm spacer up front, and a 10 or 15mm spacer in the rear. Once I see the wheels on the car I'll know for sure. Also people stretch these same exact tires on 11x17 wheels, so I have no qualms about my setup. Maybe a narrower than stock rear tire will make the car handle more neutrally than the factory setup? I gotta try it and see.
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i am running 9.5 on all corners with +23 in the front and +15 on the back and i am pretty flush with the fenders... as i sit i had to roll the fendrs and if you do a spacer you will definately hit. only the hellaflush retards would put that size tire on a 11" wide wheel, try drifing on that and let me know how long it takes you to break the bead
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this is how you would look, and that is just freaking retarded

**edit on a 11" wheel on left picture and 9.5" on right
Attached Thumbnails MB Battles-capture.jpg   MB Battles-capture2.jpg  

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Terrasmak, worst case I can go to a 235/45 or a 245/35 if I want a bigger diameter later on. The wheel gap will only increase by half of the diameter difference, so 20mm up front and 29mm in the rear. The car will also be lowered by these amounts.

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Travlee your 275/40 and 255/40 tires are taller and wider than what I'll be using. Also are your rims 18's or 17's? I feel confident that I won't break any beads or need any fender modifications, at least until I add spacers.
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i have 18's because i didnt want to be on the frame or have a gap like the grand canyon.
Old 12-16-2013, 10:33 AM
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little late
Originally Posted by kelsey_kaye
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Sorry for the delay folks, check out the top 8 pictures:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/593as/s...7635352074073/

The new rims weighed 22.3 lb. each on my scale. Each tire weighed 24.75 lb., which makes sense because the 595's run a little wide for the indicated size. Total combined weight comes out to 47.1 lb. The previous rim/tire combo weighed roughly 65 lb. per corner rear, and 56 lb. per corner front. This gives about a 60 lb. decrease in unsprung weight, which is enormous. Further contributing to the improvement is the decrease in polar moment. To put it simply, the weight loss paired with the smaller radius makes each rim/tire a lot easier to move. I'm very happy with this combination.

As far as appearance goes, I'm waiting to do my suspension build before I get spacers, and I'll probably only add spacers to the front, to widen the track width.


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