350z Roadster stance help!
07-03-2015, 11:42 AM
#21
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As it's been stated throughout this thread, the "logical" way to "stance" - using your existing wheels, as stated you wish for - is by using spacers. While I'm NOT a fan of same due to the likely change in handling feel (due to "artificial" change in scrub radius), here's how to do this.
- Start by measuring the distance from the most outboard point of your tires to the fender lip (if you really want that "hella flush" look, you'll start by rolling the fenders all the way up and THEN measuring.)
- Next, you need to KNOW (or determine) the offset of your existing wheels. If you don't know this, remove the wheel and look for size markings on the back of the wheel or measure the offset if no markings exist.
- Plug the numbers into the tire width calculator (found under "Tools" on every forum page) and play with the variables (subtracting spacer sizes) until you're close to how much you want them to stick out, leaving adequate space from tire to fender lip to allow for fender clearance.
- Purchase spacers in that size, install, and voila, you're done.
Yes, this is something of an oversimplification but that's pretty much the procedure.
Personally, though, I'd get the correct wheel/tire sizes for what you want the car to look like. This gives you the look and minimal amount of scrub radius change because you've compensated for scrub by changing the actual footprint/width, hence, altered the centerline of the tire and wheel vis a vis the steering axis line.
NOTE: Lowering the car will change all of this so lower it first if that's your desire. This will likely add steps to this by your needing to add camber adjustment (front UCAs, camber arms out back.) You do NOT need coilovers for stance-only (actual performance enhancement be dammed.). Lowering springs will take care of this unless you're going for the "road-UFO" look, scraping as you go - in which case, you'll just turn down the springs to the right height with C/O's.
- Start by measuring the distance from the most outboard point of your tires to the fender lip (if you really want that "hella flush" look, you'll start by rolling the fenders all the way up and THEN measuring.)
- Next, you need to KNOW (or determine) the offset of your existing wheels. If you don't know this, remove the wheel and look for size markings on the back of the wheel or measure the offset if no markings exist.
- Plug the numbers into the tire width calculator (found under "Tools" on every forum page) and play with the variables (subtracting spacer sizes) until you're close to how much you want them to stick out, leaving adequate space from tire to fender lip to allow for fender clearance.
- Purchase spacers in that size, install, and voila, you're done.
Yes, this is something of an oversimplification but that's pretty much the procedure.
Personally, though, I'd get the correct wheel/tire sizes for what you want the car to look like. This gives you the look and minimal amount of scrub radius change because you've compensated for scrub by changing the actual footprint/width, hence, altered the centerline of the tire and wheel vis a vis the steering axis line.
NOTE: Lowering the car will change all of this so lower it first if that's your desire. This will likely add steps to this by your needing to add camber adjustment (front UCAs, camber arms out back.) You do NOT need coilovers for stance-only (actual performance enhancement be dammed.). Lowering springs will take care of this unless you're going for the "road-UFO" look, scraping as you go - in which case, you'll just turn down the springs to the right height with C/O's.
07-03-2015, 11:53 AM
#23
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Laff....
Mistuh Sparco, you know it's not about spittin' no wads of nahlejj.
It's about helping OP understand that achieving the look he wants isn't just about "slam it and make it fat". It's about doing it right the first time around, and preserving his tire/wheel investment as well as keeping the car reasonably safe and DRIVEABLE - facts so often overlooked for the sake of aesthetics and image.
I'm just Mistuh Boring to most I'd guess - a fact I can live with; but I want (and have) the confidence in my cars when I hit that apex, looks be dammed. Hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa....
07-03-2015, 12:14 PM
#24
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@ OP
What i did? Enkei rpf1, 18s all around.
9.5 fr, 10.5 + 15 all.
Bridgestone 760s
265/35 fr
295/35 rr
bc daily driver. And not race car.
Since you've got new tires and wheels, drive those. Get spacers or not. ( they need to be put on with a torque wrench to be safe. 90 foot pounds)
@ MicBr0, I will be Ed if you'll be Jonny haha.
@ Sparco, Hope you enjoy a good, safe holiday!
jc
What i did? Enkei rpf1, 18s all around.
9.5 fr, 10.5 + 15 all.
Bridgestone 760s
265/35 fr
295/35 rr
bc daily driver. And not race car.
Since you've got new tires and wheels, drive those. Get spacers or not. ( they need to be put on with a torque wrench to be safe. 90 foot pounds)
@ MicBr0, I will be Ed if you'll be Jonny haha.
@ Sparco, Hope you enjoy a good, safe holiday!
jc
07-03-2015, 03:36 PM
#25
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As it's been stated throughout this thread, the "logical" way to "stance" - using your existing wheels, as stated you wish for - is by using spacers. While I'm NOT a fan of same due to the likely change in handling feel (due to "artificial" change in scrub radius), here's how to do this.
- Start by measuring the distance from the most outboard point of your tires to the fender lip (if you really want that "hella flush" look, you'll start by rolling the fenders all the way up and THEN measuring.)
- Next, you need to KNOW (or determine) the offset of your existing wheels. If you don't know this, remove the wheel and look for size markings on the back of the wheel or measure the offset if no markings exist.
- Plug the numbers into the tire width calculator (found under "Tools" on every forum page) and play with the variables (subtracting spacer sizes) until you're close to how much you want them to stick out, leaving adequate space from tire to fender lip to allow for fender clearance.
- Purchase spacers in that size, install, and voila, you're done.
Yes, this is something of an oversimplification but that's pretty much the procedure.
Personally, though, I'd get the correct wheel/tire sizes for what you want the car to look like. This gives you the look and minimal amount of scrub radius change because you've compensated for scrub by changing the actual footprint/width, hence, altered the centerline of the tire and wheel vis a vis the steering axis line.
NOTE: Lowering the car will change all of this so lower it first if that's your desire. This will likely add steps to this by your needing to add camber adjustment (front UCAs, camber arms out back.) You do NOT need coilovers for stance-only (actual performance enhancement be dammed.). Lowering springs will take care of this unless you're going for the "road-UFO" look, scraping as you go - in which case, you'll just turn down the springs to the right height with C/O's.
- Start by measuring the distance from the most outboard point of your tires to the fender lip (if you really want that "hella flush" look, you'll start by rolling the fenders all the way up and THEN measuring.)
- Next, you need to KNOW (or determine) the offset of your existing wheels. If you don't know this, remove the wheel and look for size markings on the back of the wheel or measure the offset if no markings exist.
- Plug the numbers into the tire width calculator (found under "Tools" on every forum page) and play with the variables (subtracting spacer sizes) until you're close to how much you want them to stick out, leaving adequate space from tire to fender lip to allow for fender clearance.
- Purchase spacers in that size, install, and voila, you're done.
Yes, this is something of an oversimplification but that's pretty much the procedure.
Personally, though, I'd get the correct wheel/tire sizes for what you want the car to look like. This gives you the look and minimal amount of scrub radius change because you've compensated for scrub by changing the actual footprint/width, hence, altered the centerline of the tire and wheel vis a vis the steering axis line.
NOTE: Lowering the car will change all of this so lower it first if that's your desire. This will likely add steps to this by your needing to add camber adjustment (front UCAs, camber arms out back.) You do NOT need coilovers for stance-only (actual performance enhancement be dammed.). Lowering springs will take care of this unless you're going for the "road-UFO" look, scraping as you go - in which case, you'll just turn down the springs to the right height with C/O's.
07-03-2015, 03:38 PM
#26
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@ OP
What i did? Enkei rpf1, 18s all around.
9.5 fr, 10.5 + 15 all.
Bridgestone 760s
265/35 fr
295/35 rr
bc daily driver. And not race car.
Since you've got new tires and wheels, drive those. Get spacers or not. ( they need to be put on with a torque wrench to be safe. 90 foot pounds)
@ MicBr0, I will be Ed if you'll be Jonny haha.
@ Sparco, Hope you enjoy a good, safe holiday!
jc
What i did? Enkei rpf1, 18s all around.
9.5 fr, 10.5 + 15 all.
Bridgestone 760s
265/35 fr
295/35 rr
bc daily driver. And not race car.
Since you've got new tires and wheels, drive those. Get spacers or not. ( they need to be put on with a torque wrench to be safe. 90 foot pounds)
@ MicBr0, I will be Ed if you'll be Jonny haha.
@ Sparco, Hope you enjoy a good, safe holiday!
jc
Or, if you learn to cuss more, Sid The Cussing Rabbit.
07-03-2015, 03:44 PM
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07-03-2015, 03:45 PM
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If you truly want low on Eibach, go Sportline....wayyyy lower than ProKit.
07-06-2015, 06:03 AM
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07-06-2015, 06:43 PM
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Hate you, ShineyA $$ Chad
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07-07-2015, 08:37 PM
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Will do but I really like my rims tho... I wanna do what chad did. 25 MM spacers with sport line eibach kir
07-08-2015, 03:11 AM
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Make sure you torque those spacers to 90 foot pounds.
With a torque wrench.
With a torque wrench.
07-13-2015, 03:36 PM
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