How May Mile Before Synthetic Oil
08-29-2006, 09:43 AM
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No it is not, and going synthetic with hardly no miles is not really something I would do considering the piston rings have to seat. This could be a factor as why so many Z's consume oil, because they're not broken in properly with the proper oil. Also 3000 mile oil change intervals on NA cars is a waste of money and good oil. Trust me you are not helping that engine at all with 3000 mile changes. 1st oil change at 3000 miles with regular oil, then at 8000 should be your next with syn. if you choose and from there on at every 5000.
08-29-2006, 10:03 AM
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sythetic will make a little power due to less friction. you could run sythentic at first oil change. alot of cars come factory filled w/ synthetic (my corvette) did. you do not want to run syn if your car has any oil leaks though, as it will start leaking more.
08-29-2006, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by idwin
sythetic will make a little power due to less friction. you could run sythentic at first oil change. alot of cars come factory filled w/ synthetic (my corvette) did. you do not want to run syn if your car has any oil leaks though, as it will start leaking more.
08-29-2006, 10:23 AM
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? ive seen a firebird gain 6 w/ all fluids changed to syn, motor/trans/diff. back to back dynos, since then ive been sold. i would think you'd at least gain 1 or 2 but hey everything helps, it's the protection that counts
08-29-2006, 01:46 PM
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since nobody seems to have a good answer to the question why one should wait to switch to synthetic, I thought I would ask the internet, here's what it told me why there's no need to wait:
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ics/Myths.aspx
http://www-d0.fnal.gov/~jkrane/cars/synth_survey.html
http://www.autoeducation.com/autosho...l-change-1.htm
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classi...3571251.column
I didn't bother showing links to pages that told me that I should wait because none of them could tell me why I should wait other than quoting the conventional wisdom that says one should wait. It seems most of the "CW" warns about switching, saying things like don't do it until the car is broken in, but never says why. It carries the ear mark of every good urban legend -- "I knew a friend who..." or "I was told by..." . Most of the sites with "hard facts" say it is no big deal and give you lots of reason's why. So believe what you wanna believe.
I switched at my first oil change and haven't had any problems. My wife's car (BMW-Mini Cooper S) came with synthetic and recommended oil changes are every 10,000 mi.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ics/Myths.aspx
http://www-d0.fnal.gov/~jkrane/cars/synth_survey.html
http://www.autoeducation.com/autosho...l-change-1.htm
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classi...3571251.column
I didn't bother showing links to pages that told me that I should wait because none of them could tell me why I should wait other than quoting the conventional wisdom that says one should wait. It seems most of the "CW" warns about switching, saying things like don't do it until the car is broken in, but never says why. It carries the ear mark of every good urban legend -- "I knew a friend who..." or "I was told by..." . Most of the sites with "hard facts" say it is no big deal and give you lots of reason's why. So believe what you wanna believe.
I switched at my first oil change and haven't had any problems. My wife's car (BMW-Mini Cooper S) came with synthetic and recommended oil changes are every 10,000 mi.
08-30-2006, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Tacular
The oil the car has from the factory has aditives for the break in of the motor so just wait till your first oil change.
08-30-2006, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Tacular
The oil the car has from the factory has aditives for the break in of the motor so just wait till your first oil change.
In fact, many manufacturers install synthetic at the factory, especially in hiohg perfromance vehicles.
You can switch to synthetic anytime.
"One of the myths surrounding synthetic oils is that new engines require a break-in period with conventional oil. The fact is, current engine manufacturing technology does not require this break-in period. As indicated by the decisions of the engineers who design the high-performance cars listed above, Mobil 1 can be used starting the day you drive the car off the showroom floor."
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ics/Myths.aspx
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08-30-2006, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bailey bill
That's a myth.
In fact, many manufacturers install synthetic at the factory, especially in hiohg perfromance vehicles.
You can switch to synthetic anytime.
"One of the myths surrounding synthetic oils is that new engines require a break-in period with conventional oil. The fact is, current engine manufacturing technology does not require this break-in period. As indicated by the decisions of the engineers who design the high-performance cars listed above, Mobil 1 can be used starting the day you drive the car off the showroom floor."
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ics/Myths.aspx
bill
In fact, many manufacturers install synthetic at the factory, especially in hiohg perfromance vehicles.
You can switch to synthetic anytime.
"One of the myths surrounding synthetic oils is that new engines require a break-in period with conventional oil. The fact is, current engine manufacturing technology does not require this break-in period. As indicated by the decisions of the engineers who design the high-performance cars listed above, Mobil 1 can be used starting the day you drive the car off the showroom floor."
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ics/Myths.aspx
bill
08-30-2006, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeg8r
The question was regarding whether or not additives are actually added not if a car required a break-in period. Additives can be just as easily added to synthetic oil as to convetional oil.
Read the highlighted section.
Modern machining and assembly procedures make break-in unnecessary. There is no such thing as "factory break-in oil".
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08-31-2006, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bailey bill
Read the highlighted section.
Modern machining and assembly procedures make break-in unnecessary. There is no such thing as "factory break-in oil".
bill
Modern machining and assembly procedures make break-in unnecessary. There is no such thing as "factory break-in oil".
bill
09-01-2006, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeg8r
Bill, do you happen to be a nissan engineer and can definitively say one way or the other?
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