Is it true the two fastest z's on the forum are automatic
 

First of all im wondering why the majority of people who own 6-speed z's talk so much **** about automatic z's when the two fastest z's on this site are automatics please someone answer this question for me?

Men who were born short-shifted, feel the need to boost their image and need to constantly hold something in their right hand.

Congratulations. You just began Manual vs Automatic War XXVI. Someone PM me the results. Thanks.

well i cant confirm that the two fastest Z's on this site are automatic or manual but the debate of automatic or manual boils down to one thing, and that is driver skill.

Are you driving your car? or is the car driving you.

In a 6 speed, it takes skill, and finesse to drive the Z the way it was meant to be driven. Plain and simple. Consider that all forms of racing do NOT use automatic. Why is that. On the track, i want to have as much control over my engine as possible. I dont want to have to worry about my automatic putting me into the wrong gear that robs me of time.

In an automatic the car drives you. i can train a monkey to push down on a pedal and keep the car within the lines. It doesnt take any driver skill whatsoever. In a manual its not just the skill or turning quickly and sharply and accelerating, decellerating and braking. Thow a clutch and shifter into the mix.

Now i wont bull****. in the old days, the automatics werent nearly as fast as the six speeds because the technology just wasnt there. I have a 78 Corvette thats been fully restored, unfortunately its automatic, and the damn thing just sucks at shifting. I've rebuilt her tranny three times, it doesnt make a difference. The technology is just not there. But in these new japanese transmissions, the technology has gotten so good, that they are incredibly fast at shifting. Only problem is, they lack the control of a six speed.

If i'm at the track, i need to able to control my shift points, control my decceleration, control my braking. In an automatic, you can't do it. The automatics are not optimized for racing, they are optimized for gas mileage.

We six speeds talk so much **** because we are a different breed than all the automatics out there. Its just that. If you have the preference to drive the car in the city, and maybe take it to the track occasionally, then buy an automatic by all means. you will appreciate it in the long run with better gas mileage, and at the end of the day you will still be happy.

But if you are serious about racing, and you wanna really DRIVE your z to its full ability, then by all means, get the 6 speed.

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Here's a quote just for you from "The Fast and the Furious" since you seem to be so serious about racing

Ask any racer, any real racer. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.


I'll race you in an automatic. I'll even race you in my Volvo sedan which is an automatic. It doesn't matter if you have an automatic or a manual transmission. Winning is winning and the simple fact of the matter is that very few of the people here have the ability to even handle a manual transmission to the best of it's capabilities. If they did they would be racing for the big bucks and most likely not driving a Z. I for one ain't ashamed of using technology to help me win a race. As far as the Z is concerned, both the stock AT and MT perform equally. I'll even go far to say that the AT will win more times than the MT because of driver skill.

BTW you mentioned that in the AT you can't control the shift points, you are incorrect there. The Z 5AT has a manual mode where you can shift sequentially at any time without fear of missing a gear, stalling, grinding or damaging the tranny.

MT vs AT Wars...
 

Man Uses Antlers in Road Rage Incident

FORT PIERCE, Fla. — Two 350Z drivers were arrested on battery charges Thursday after a road rage incident led one to attack the other with deer antlers and then a handgun, authorities said.

Ronny White, 6MT, and Keith Ransford, 5AT, both of Ft. Pierce, were booked at the St. Lucie County jail for alleged aggravated assault. Both were later freed on bond, said sheriff's Sgt. Andy McIntosh.

"They got into a first altercation and the one guy tries to attack the second guy with deer antlers," McIntosh said. "It's not an everyday occurrence."

White and Ransford allegedly got into an altercation while driving along U.S. 1 in Ft. Pierce, McIntosh said. The men stopped, and White allegedly attempted to attack Ransford with the deer antlers. Both men got back in their cars, crashed into each other, then stopped again about a block away, according to the sheriff's report.

Ransford then allegedly rammed his vehicle into White's car. White pulled out a handgun and fired one shot into Ransford's vehicle, the report stated. Neither men suffered serious injuries

Not going to enter the discussion other than to say, your average auto/tiptronic (whatever you want to call it), uses more petrol than a manual around town, on the open road, the reverse it the case even if driving very heavy footed.

Oh, I'll just add I've driven 15 350's now, both manual and auto, before this comment is dissed.

If you consider a TH400 3 speed tranny the same as your automatic Z, then yes the two fastest Z's on the forum are autos.

well im not a trash talker or anything like that i was just wondering why people trash the tiptronic half the people that talk **** probably havent even driven one before. Im not a big fan of automatics either but i must say the tiptronic on the z is damn good especially when you compare it to other tiptronic trannys like the bmw's its horrible.

oh and yeah automatic is an automatic isn't it 3 speed, 4speed, 10 million speed ok little exagerration but you get the point. It doesn't matter if a manulal is 5 speed, 6speed, or 7speed its still manual right.

dude, you're the biggest ignorant FOOLIOUS MAXIMUS in this forum. You're embaressing other manual drivers.. :icon22: :icon22: :icon22: please don't speak again for awhile.

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bye the way to the person above that said manuals are in all race cars thats not true top fuel dragsters are all auto's don't forget about the fastest cars made for the 1/4 mile.

i love my tiptronic but sometimes the shift lags and ill redline it hard, it makes me nervous

that is true a vb upgrade would help that though then you wouldn't have a lag at all most likely.

I see someone took The Fast and the Furious a little too serious:dance:

Owning a 600 hp 1968 dodge charger, I can tell you that an automatic is the choice for drag racing. But manual is more fun. If you like driving an automatic, then good for you. They're also good for traffic n' stuff.

+1 nothing worse then getting stuck on the freeway in a stop and go situation with a manual tranny! but the fun part comes when the traffic clears up!

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When shifting a torque converter based AT you want to make sure you are not lifting off the throttle when you shift. A TC based AT prefers a level or accelerating throttle. Many people mistakenly think it should be driven like a regular MT. And like someone said before a VB upgrade can help.