hey guys, just an issue that I have bought up with friends..
09-02-2008, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jgrizzle
Whatever the color, as long as its not Dodge Neon.
..I'm not correcting honestly just wondering if your talking about a color or a car.
09-02-2008, 05:11 PM
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Brickyard rat,
That's exactly the kind or response i'd expect from an old fogey like yourself. See, us 20 something year olds (and younger) are busy with real problems, like being insecure about our vehicles. If someone starts some beef what am i supposed to do? just back down? Never back down. I heard that somewhere...seems like words of wisdom to me.
(just so we're clear, my tounge is firmly planted in my cheek)
Moving on:
Hmm I should've known this would be a sore spot for people. First of all, read what i said. There is no hate for the evo. In my opinion evo's are FIRST and FOREMOST a kick *** car. I love them, and if i had to trade my Z for something an evo 9 would be at the top of a very short list.
However I stand by what I said until proven otherwise. The evo's primary purpose is NOT to make a profit on each vehicle sold. It's a "halo" car meaning it's purpose is to bring people into the show room where they can then decide that 40K is too much to pay for what they want and instead opt to pay 25K for a normal lancer laiden with profitable options. Again this is not a nock on the car, the viper has the same purpose and those kick a lot of *** too.
My original point was that it's not as flashy as a Z (read: it's a sedan and there are crappy non-evo versions available) and that it hasn't been a huge hit for mitsubishi profit wise (a ravenously dedicated group of fans do not necessarily equate to mainstream success or profitability.) Hence people are less likely to hate on it, although it still does get it's fair share.
Brickyard rat,
That's exactly the kind or response i'd expect from an old fogey like yourself. See, us 20 something year olds (and younger) are busy with real problems, like being insecure about our vehicles. If someone starts some beef what am i supposed to do? just back down? Never back down. I heard that somewhere...seems like words of wisdom to me.
(just so we're clear, my tounge is firmly planted in my cheek)
Moving on:
Originally Posted by woogie12
I can't agree with this hate at all, the evo 8 and 9 are total monsters in every aspect. They did kill the evo with the 10, but that's a whole nother story.
However I stand by what I said until proven otherwise. The evo's primary purpose is NOT to make a profit on each vehicle sold. It's a "halo" car meaning it's purpose is to bring people into the show room where they can then decide that 40K is too much to pay for what they want and instead opt to pay 25K for a normal lancer laiden with profitable options. Again this is not a nock on the car, the viper has the same purpose and those kick a lot of *** too.
My original point was that it's not as flashy as a Z (read: it's a sedan and there are crappy non-evo versions available) and that it hasn't been a huge hit for mitsubishi profit wise (a ravenously dedicated group of fans do not necessarily equate to mainstream success or profitability.) Hence people are less likely to hate on it, although it still does get it's fair share.
Last edited by moflow; 09-02-2008 at 05:18 PM.
09-03-2008, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JSDZ33
depending on suspension mods each one of those cars would waste a stock z on a road course. stop failing.
Last edited by NISMO_558; 09-03-2008 at 12:41 AM.
09-03-2008, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by moflow
In short, Z's are popular and its been an extremely successful car.
nobody want to pick on GTO owners, their car was killed after something like 3 years. RX-8? uncertain future. Evo? non-profitable halo car plus it looks like a sedan. But the Z..the Z is profitable, good looking, fast, has a very bright future, and simply hasn't had any glaring faults. Seems like a perfect candidate to hate on. After all someone's gotta bring us off of our high horse.
right?
And the best part? It's SOOOOO EASY!!! The Z can be beaten in virtually any measurment if you put it up against the right car. Plenty of cars are faster in a straight line for the money. Plenty of cars handle better for the money. Lots of cars are faster in a straight line AND handle better. Some cars are better looking. Etc... I could go on forever. The Z is about balancing all these things, which makes for a great car, but not particularly good bragging rights.
thank god i bought my car to drive and not to brag about. Cuz i would be ****ED right now.
nobody want to pick on GTO owners, their car was killed after something like 3 years. RX-8? uncertain future. Evo? non-profitable halo car plus it looks like a sedan. But the Z..the Z is profitable, good looking, fast, has a very bright future, and simply hasn't had any glaring faults. Seems like a perfect candidate to hate on. After all someone's gotta bring us off of our high horse.
right?
And the best part? It's SOOOOO EASY!!! The Z can be beaten in virtually any measurment if you put it up against the right car. Plenty of cars are faster in a straight line for the money. Plenty of cars handle better for the money. Lots of cars are faster in a straight line AND handle better. Some cars are better looking. Etc... I could go on forever. The Z is about balancing all these things, which makes for a great car, but not particularly good bragging rights.
thank god i bought my car to drive and not to brag about. Cuz i would be ****ED right now.
09-03-2008, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by daryl.blas
^^
Tell me about it. People always complain about it being too cheap that teens buy it.
But, the expected jump coming with the 370's?
Everyone and their mother is complaining about the price tag.
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Tell me about it. People always complain about it being too cheap that teens buy it.
But, the expected jump coming with the 370's?
Everyone and their mother is complaining about the price tag.
.
Imo cheap car means well..cheap car. maybe this time round it will get better parts etc.. And perhaps delay the kiddies a bit longer.
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