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here ill make it up to you! megan racing 350z drift practice..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKfT6Pg7sds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKfT6Pg7sds
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Been on spring break on FL and haven't had time to work on the Z. Here's some of the latest pics so far. A total of two weeks have been spent working on it. I'm estimating another week of work for it to be completed.
The first picture shows where we cut out the damage. We took the parts we needed from the salvage Z and placed it back in place.
The first picture shows where we cut out the damage. We took the parts we needed from the salvage Z and placed it back in place.
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Time for my 2 cents...
I definitely think that 10k was too much. (Probably could've gotten around 8k, just my opinion though). Regardless, I trust that you and your dad know what you're doing and you wouldn't have bought the car had you not felt you could repair it.
As for the update:
Lookin' good. If you pull this off, you will be a much prouder Z owner than anyone else here. I'm pullin' for ya!
I definitely think that 10k was too much. (Probably could've gotten around 8k, just my opinion though). Regardless, I trust that you and your dad know what you're doing and you wouldn't have bought the car had you not felt you could repair it.
As for the update:
Lookin' good. If you pull this off, you will be a much prouder Z owner than anyone else here. I'm pullin' for ya!
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No doubt, you definitely paid too much for it. I was going to flame you, however, I thought before I typed... see below:
However, 6 or 7 years ago I was T-Boned in my first car. Damage was similar to your's (although it was on the passenger side), though not quite as bad (just missed major frame damage). My Dad owned a shop for about 15 years and we decided to fix it (because I had almost no money to buy anything else). Purchased pretty much half of another car (I think I paid about $1000 for that) and split it all up and did quite a large and intensive amount of work. Driver side was pushed up on a curb when I was T-Boned so the whole driver side rocker panel had to be replaced as well.
We then primered and painted it. Damn near as good as new. Granted it wasn't the same... it made some noise (rattles), I think because I reused some of the old passenger side interior plastics. I ended up doing the job for about +/- $1600ish. Not to mention the countless hours of labor that my father and I put into it. Though, set and done... I learned more doing that project than I could anywhere else. From the fabrication it took to make it right, piecing it together, making it fit, welding, painting, etc etc. It was a valuable experience.
Keep in mind, this was far from a powerful sports car so it was never really "tested" at higher speeds or track events. Also, parts were cheaper because it was not a sports car and it was 6 or 7 years ago. Nonetheless, I would do it again if I had the chance but probably not as a main project (maybe if I could pick something like that up for half the price you paid, I would consider it). I've got alot more money now (compared to then)... I would just save up and buy something newer
I'm happy that I learned from that experience and had my open-minded and patient father to help teach me through that process. Good for you for tackling something that most would turn a cold shoulder to anymore (seems like no one repairs cars anymore lol). Maybe it wasn't the best choice financially but the experience you can gain (if you choose to) will prove to be worthwhile down the road.
However, 6 or 7 years ago I was T-Boned in my first car. Damage was similar to your's (although it was on the passenger side), though not quite as bad (just missed major frame damage). My Dad owned a shop for about 15 years and we decided to fix it (because I had almost no money to buy anything else). Purchased pretty much half of another car (I think I paid about $1000 for that) and split it all up and did quite a large and intensive amount of work. Driver side was pushed up on a curb when I was T-Boned so the whole driver side rocker panel had to be replaced as well.
We then primered and painted it. Damn near as good as new. Granted it wasn't the same... it made some noise (rattles), I think because I reused some of the old passenger side interior plastics. I ended up doing the job for about +/- $1600ish. Not to mention the countless hours of labor that my father and I put into it. Though, set and done... I learned more doing that project than I could anywhere else. From the fabrication it took to make it right, piecing it together, making it fit, welding, painting, etc etc. It was a valuable experience.
Keep in mind, this was far from a powerful sports car so it was never really "tested" at higher speeds or track events. Also, parts were cheaper because it was not a sports car and it was 6 or 7 years ago. Nonetheless, I would do it again if I had the chance but probably not as a main project (maybe if I could pick something like that up for half the price you paid, I would consider it). I've got alot more money now (compared to then)... I would just save up and buy something newer
I'm happy that I learned from that experience and had my open-minded and patient father to help teach me through that process. Good for you for tackling something that most would turn a cold shoulder to anymore (seems like no one repairs cars anymore lol). Maybe it wasn't the best choice financially but the experience you can gain (if you choose to) will prove to be worthwhile down the road.
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Thanks for the responses guys. The donor car was actually free. I just have to order the rear quarter, a rocker panel and a door skin for the driver side door that I also got from the donor car. I'll post up the total cost of repair when the project is completed.
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Salvage Vehicles
Here is my knowledge on this fix up.
Ones the car is totally done, getting a full coverage insurance on this car is out of the question, here is were the insurance company will screw you. they will only pay 1/4 of the original value of the car. So if the car is worth 19 - 23 thousand, all you are getting in total lost is 5 to 6 thousand in return. Now there's something to think about.
Here is a good example. There is a car in craigslist 2007 around 8,000 put is not much of a fix like the side hit of your car. here is the listing, now this is the same problem with the salvage vehicle. My brother in-law wanted the get this and i'm like hell no, you will regret it.
http://providence.craigslist.org/ctd/1123366387.html
Ones the car is totally done, getting a full coverage insurance on this car is out of the question, here is were the insurance company will screw you. they will only pay 1/4 of the original value of the car. So if the car is worth 19 - 23 thousand, all you are getting in total lost is 5 to 6 thousand in return. Now there's something to think about.
Here is a good example. There is a car in craigslist 2007 around 8,000 put is not much of a fix like the side hit of your car. here is the listing, now this is the same problem with the salvage vehicle. My brother in-law wanted the get this and i'm like hell no, you will regret it.
http://providence.craigslist.org/ctd/1123366387.html
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^ If I remember right, there was a thread about a month ago on here that contradicts what you are saying. A guy totaled his salvaged title vehicle that he rebuilt but had full coverage on it. He got a full payout for the salvaged re-titled vehicle and upgraded to an 07 then I think. He ended up making out good on it. Didn't seem right to me at the time but seemed like he did get the full payout for the branded car he crashed. If I'm wrong or know where that thread is let me know.
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EDIT: Its totally possible to get all the parts and paint in under 5 grand, like I said, though, it's only profitable if you're doing your own labor. Also, I don't mean to sound like a dick, but besides a few knowledgeable people who know some things on this subject, most of you sound like you've never opened the hood of your own car, again, didn't mean to be mean, but its funny to see people who are clueless on the subject act like they're hot ****. This is nothing new, people have done this before, and in total they ended paying 5-7k less than you would for a new car. The problem is that its a salvage title car, and if you decide to sell it, it can be tire-some until you find the customer that knows this type of thing, that's the choice YOU have to make. Also, you could run into some insurance problems, I guess, though, I never have. My dad used to have a salvage 02 Eclipse GT, he got rear ended, and the insurance company paid the full amount in order to get the repairs done, no one said "oh, well, this is a salvage title car so we're only going to appraise it at a quarter of its price." if that was the case, the car would have been totaled.
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I don't have an issue with buying a wreck and fixing it yourself, I've done it a few times. Granted, not to that extent of damage. However, most auctions and insurance buybacks go for roughly 10-20% of the value of the car, meaning that paying 10G's, you could have gotten a wrecked $50-100K car instead of a $30K car. Even with 14K miles on it, it doesn't matter at this point since its wrecked.
Congrats on the purchase, and good luck with the rebuild!
Congrats on the purchase, and good luck with the rebuild!
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Here is my knowledge on this fix up.
Ones the car is totally done, getting a full coverage insurance on this car is out of the question, here is were the insurance company will screw you. they will only pay 1/4 of the original value of the car. So if the car is worth 19 - 23 thousand, all you are getting in total lost is 5 to 6 thousand in return. Now there's something to think about.
Ones the car is totally done, getting a full coverage insurance on this car is out of the question, here is were the insurance company will screw you. they will only pay 1/4 of the original value of the car. So if the car is worth 19 - 23 thousand, all you are getting in total lost is 5 to 6 thousand in return. Now there's something to think about.
Good luck to the OP.
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I think people here are not considering the appreciation for this car the OP will have when this is done. It probably won't be 100% and it will have a salvaged title, but it will be an experience with his dad that the vast majority of people will not have. There is a lot of value in that.
Good luck OP, keep posting updated pics.
Good luck OP, keep posting updated pics.
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Good luck OP, and thanks for the pics. My first car was a 1972 volkswagen westfalia (camper van) which I bought for 500 dollars. It didn't run, but was complete. I brought the car back from the dead and really appreciated it mostly because of the work I myself put into it and getting it running again. There is a certain sense of gratitude you will have for the time and effort that went into your Z that those of us who just buy and drive may never appreciate.
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what auction did you buy it off? I just bought mine of IAAI in NJ for 5500 with 398 miles on it.
Almost done ill have pics of after soon
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Almost done ill have pics of after soon
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Dude, things like these are possible, if you're doing your own labor. My dad used to have a little shop, and I know exactly what this guy is doing, it's been done before. We used to buy salvage titled cars, fix them, and then sell them. As long as whoever is working on it knows what they're doing, the car will be fine.
EDIT: Its totally possible to get all the parts and paint in under 5 grand, like I said, though, it's only profitable if you're doing your own labor. Also, I don't mean to sound like a dick, but besides a few knowledgeable people who know some things on this subject, most of you sound like you've never opened the hood of your own car, again, didn't mean to be mean, but its funny to see people who are clueless on the subject act like they're hot ****. This is nothing new, people have done this before, and in total they ended paying 5-7k less than you would for a new car. The problem is that its a salvage title car, and if you decide to sell it, it can be tire-some until you find the customer that knows this type of thing, that's the choice YOU have to make. Also, you could run into some insurance problems, I guess, though, I never have. My dad used to have a salvage 02 Eclipse GT, he got rear ended, and the insurance company paid the full amount in order to get the repairs done, no one said "oh, well, this is a salvage title car so we're only going to appraise it at a quarter of its price." if that was the case, the car would have been totaled.
EDIT: Its totally possible to get all the parts and paint in under 5 grand, like I said, though, it's only profitable if you're doing your own labor. Also, I don't mean to sound like a dick, but besides a few knowledgeable people who know some things on this subject, most of you sound like you've never opened the hood of your own car, again, didn't mean to be mean, but its funny to see people who are clueless on the subject act like they're hot ****. This is nothing new, people have done this before, and in total they ended paying 5-7k less than you would for a new car. The problem is that its a salvage title car, and if you decide to sell it, it can be tire-some until you find the customer that knows this type of thing, that's the choice YOU have to make. Also, you could run into some insurance problems, I guess, though, I never have. My dad used to have a salvage 02 Eclipse GT, he got rear ended, and the insurance company paid the full amount in order to get the repairs done, no one said "oh, well, this is a salvage title car so we're only going to appraise it at a quarter of its price." if that was the case, the car would have been totaled.
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