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Shermanator Feb 11, 2011 08:16 PM

Why don't 350z's have 289hp as advertised?
 
I now this is a noob question but I just don't get it. Everyone says that a stock 350z dynod hits like 250HPish when Nissan advertises it at 289hp. How is this possible that the numbers are off by so much?

TheFarmer Feb 11, 2011 08:23 PM

Dyno HP is measured at the rear wheels. Manufacturer ratings are measured at crank.

SuperBlack350z Feb 11, 2011 08:23 PM

hp lost through drivetrain? i'm just guessing.

snobes Feb 11, 2011 08:23 PM

nissan advertise the power output at the engine. when we measure it its at the wheels. all cars lose power in the drivertrain

erichsherrill Feb 11, 2011 09:12 PM

Brake horsepower (bhp) is the measure of an engine's horsepower before the loss in power caused by the gearbox, alternator, differential, water pump, and other auxiliary components such as power steering pump, muffled exhaust system, etc. Brake refers to a device which was used to load an engine and hold it at a desired RPM. During testing, the output torque and rotational speed were measured to determine the brake horsepower... and when you see posted dyno numbers by members these are the numbers measured after the horsepower has gone through the drivetrain to the wheels

davidv Feb 12, 2011 04:26 AM

http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2010...o-ad-board.jpg

In Japan numbers are in a different language.

dkmesa350z Feb 12, 2011 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by davidv (Post 8958794)
http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2010...o-ad-board.jpg

In Japan numbers are in a different language.

:bowrofl:

0jiggy0 Feb 12, 2011 06:27 AM

Fukcin Dave rofl

Shermanator Feb 12, 2011 02:54 PM

I get it, Thanks. Is that the same with all other cars? Like the 2008 Ford Mustang says it has 300hp, so would the brake horsepower be down as well i assume? I'm asking this because I'm going to race my friends soon and want to know if i'm going to be way down in hp compared to him.

erichsherrill Feb 12, 2011 03:13 PM

no the BHP is 300... take about 15% off that and thats prolly what hes close to.. this is an easy question to answer with about 5 mins on google.. stop bein lazy

ITOzann Feb 12, 2011 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by davidv (Post 8958794)
http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2010...o-ad-board.jpg

In Japan numbers are in a different language.

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david79 Feb 19, 2011 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Shermanator (Post 8959535)
I get it, Thanks. Is that the same with all other cars? Like the 2008 Ford Mustang says it has 300hp, so would the brake horsepower be down as well i assume? I'm asking this because I'm going to race my friends soon and want to know if i'm going to be way down in hp compared to him.

Just curious, what car is ur friend driving?

erichsherrill Feb 19, 2011 09:41 AM

if ur bein sarcastic thats funny.. if not.. i think the answer is in the quote above your question you posted

2004Black350z Feb 22, 2011 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Shermanator (Post 8959535)
I get it, Thanks. Is that the same with all other cars? Like the 2008 Ford Mustang says it has 300hp, so would the brake horsepower be down as well i assume? I'm asking this because I'm going to race my friends soon and want to know if i'm going to be way down in hp compared to him.

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NissanZ03 Feb 22, 2011 02:09 PM

Only the 350z has hp loss from the crank to the wheels. The mustang doesn't, nor does any car. Its a phenomenon that Nissan just couldn't figure out how to avoid

pcressey Feb 22, 2011 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by NissanZ03 (Post 8980356)
Only the 350z has hp loss from the crank to the wheels. The mustang doesn't, nor does any car. Its a phenomenon that Nissan just couldn't figure out how to avoid

WRONG. If an engines cylinder are divisible by 4 then there is no HP loss through the drivetrain. 4, 8, 12 etc cylinder engines have no loss, only 6 cylinders and those goofy Mazda rotaries experience this.

sportbiketed Feb 22, 2011 02:51 PM

Also having the transmission mounted in the rear would have added 10-15% more HP.

NissanZ03 Feb 22, 2011 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by pcressey (Post 8980437)
WRONG. If an engines cylinder are divisible by 4 then there is no HP loss through the drivetrain. 4, 8, 12 etc cylinder engines have no loss, only 6 cylinders and those goofy Mazda rotaries experience this.

You realize that was a joke right?

davidv Feb 22, 2011 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by sportbiketed (Post 8980458)
Also having the transmission mounted in the rear would have added 10-15% more HP.

Doubt it, but look at the transverse mounted engine for front wheel drive. Drivetrain is short, light and very efficient.

sportbiketed Feb 22, 2011 03:32 PM

You guys fail at sarcasm...


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