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Waffle_SS Aug 15, 2012 07:50 AM

MPG conversation continuant from dude's welcome thread
 
If you're worried about fuel economy find a big rig and cruise behind him. Less drag=more MPG.

I think I hit 50 MPG one time



Originally Posted by hookah (Post 9846914)
And how did it feel after you woke up from that dream :P :icon30:


Originally Posted by Syner (Post 9846992)
LOL @ U 50 MPG? You are out of your mind...


Say what you will but it's true. Hugged the semi for a bit doing 65-70, reset the calculator and first number it hit was 50.

Originally Posted by Syner (Post 9847001)
No sh!t...

The computer takes an average, so the number right after a reset is never completely accurate. If you are coasting down a hill and reset it, the first number will be extremely high as well, doesn't mean it's accurate. :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by Waffle_SS (Post 9847016)
That number is completely accurate. That is your base number at that point in time. All it's doing from there on is adding more calculations to the equation creating an average over a broader distance.


Here's a simple comparison,

A student has gotten the following grades on his tests: 87, 95, 76, and 88.

Does this mean that the 95 never existed because his mean(average) is 86.5?


I cannot seem to get the last comment by F3ARL355 I think

Syner Aug 15, 2012 08:04 AM

Nice making the new thread.

Averages and students mean nothing. You are in a diploma level course: you get 100% on one exam worth 25% of your final grade, and choose to not complete anything else for the rest of the semester. When presenting your grades to a college/university, they then look at the 25% average you obtained. They don't care if you got 100% in one instance; the average tells a trend. The point is, the 100% is still there but it really doesn't tell anything about a student's ability.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but having 50MPG for a split second does not mean anything. Do the calculations with how far you travel and the amount of fuel you used. That is how you figure out gas mileage.

Phenom Aug 15, 2012 08:38 AM

How did you verify the flatness of the pavement and account for external forces like wind? Let me guess, you didn't. Is it so difficult to believe that you pressed reset on a segment of the road with a slight downgrade so that the car needed little to no fuel to maintain it's speed, there by enhancing and at the same time clouding the effects of the truck in front of you? Sounds to me like nothing more than a crude experiment with no control.

This was done on mythbusters anyway with a car averaging just over 30mpg at highway speeds without following a truck. At a distance of 10 feet behind the truck, it didn't even reach 45mpg. I'm willing to bet you weren't any closer than 10 feet, so you should just chalk it up as several factors coming into play. Particularly the fact that you were traveling downhill.

DavesZ#3 Aug 15, 2012 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Waffle_SS (Post 9847043)
If you're worried about fuel economy find a big rig and cruise behind him. Less drag=more MPG.

I think I hit 50 MPG one time

I cannot seem to get the last comment by F3ARL355 I think

I hit 99 mpg. i don't understand what the big deal is. Find a long hill, put car in neutral to coast down and reset the MPG. 30 second later it will show 99.

Waffle_SS Aug 15, 2012 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Phenom (Post 9847117)
How did you verify the flatness of the pavement and account for external forces like wind? Let me guess, you didn't. Is it so difficult to believe that you pressed reset on a segment of the road with a slight downgrade so that the car needed little to no fuel to maintain it's speed, there by enhancing and at the same time clouding the effects of the truck in front of you? Sounds to me like nothing more than a crude experiment with no control.

This was done on mythbusters anyway with a car averaging just over 30mpg at highway speeds without following a truck. At a distance of 10 feet behind the truck, it didn't even reach 45mpg. I'm willing to bet you weren't any closer than 10 feet, so you should just chalk it up as several factors coming into play. Particularly the fact that you were traveling downhill.

At what point did I ever say anything about a downhill slope. You're putting words in my mouth.

Let me guess, you used this site http://green.autoblog.com/2007/10/28...-improve-mile/ to find the mythbuster information?

Syner Aug 15, 2012 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by DavesZ#3 (Post 9847120)
I hit 99 mpg. i don't understand what the big deal is. Find a long hill, put car in neutral to coast down and reset the MPG. 30 second later it will show 99.

That's exactly what I was getting at! You can get the computer to show a crazy number, but it doesn't mean it's an accurate representation of your gas mileage. You don't go around saying your car gets 99MPG because the computer flashed the number for a few seconds.


Originally Posted by Waffle_SS (Post 9847135)
At what point did I ever say anything about a downhill slope. You're putting words in my mouth.

He was saying you could have been on a slight downgrade and not known it. You could have thought you were on a flat segment but were actually going downhill.

Waffle_SS Aug 15, 2012 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Syner (Post 9847067)
Nice making the new thread.

Averages and students mean nothing. You are in a diploma level course: you get 100% on one exam worth 25% of your final grade, and choose to not complete anything else for the rest of the semester. When presenting your grades to a college/university, they then look at the 25% average you obtained. They don't care if you got 100% in one instance; the average tells a trend. The point is, the 100% is still there but it really doesn't tell anything about a student's ability.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but having 50MPG for a split second does not mean anything. Do the calculations with how far you travel and the amount of fuel you used. That is how you figure out gas mileage.

Give me a bit. I have alot of work to do real fast.

Rokyr Aug 15, 2012 08:59 AM

Who. Cares.

Syner Aug 15, 2012 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Rokyr (Post 9847141)
Who. Cares.

Obviously not you; so leave? :icon22:

Phenom Aug 15, 2012 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Waffle_SS (Post 9847135)

Let me guess, you used this site http://green.autoblog.com/2007/10/28...-improve-mile/ to find the mythbuster information?

I actually saw the episode but yes I used that website to reference the correct numbers. So what's you're point?

Waffle_SS Aug 15, 2012 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Syner (Post 9847067)
Nice making the new thread.

Averages and students mean nothing. You are in a diploma level course: you get 100% on one exam worth 25% of your final grade, and choose to not complete anything else for the rest of the semester. When presenting your grades to a college/university, they then look at the 25% average you obtained. They don't care if you got 100% in one instance; the average tells a trend. The point is, the 100% is still there but it really doesn't tell anything about a student's ability.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but having 50MPG for a split second does not mean anything. Do the calculations with how far you travel and the amount of fuel you used. That is how you figure out gas mileage.

That is true. Over a length of time you will get a more accurate average reading. 50 MPG as an average is generally unobtainable with this car unless you drive like this guy

What I did obtain however was a current economy of 50 MPG for a short period of time. I know our computers give us average but that first number you receive is gonna be most accurate to your current MPG, which mine at that time was close to 50. Edit: I was able to hold that high number for a bit of time. Although it wasn't 50 I was A LOT higher than average. Distance unknown

I should have specified here about what I was saying to the OP. Current vs. Average. That I apologize



Originally Posted by Phenom (Post 9847153)
I actually saw the episode but yes I used that website to reference the correct numbers. So what's you're point?

Just want to make sure you're not googling your points to find something that supports your claim. I don't really watch "Myth Busters" anywho.

Waffle_SS Aug 15, 2012 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by DavesZ#3 (Post 9847120)
I hit 99 mpg. i don't understand what the big deal is. Find a long hill, put car in neutral to coast down and reset the MPG. 30 second later it will show 99.

Exactly

AdvanZ33 Aug 15, 2012 10:58 AM

Worried about fuel economy < getting road debris chucked at my car, not being able to see what's beyond the big rig and/or getting decapitated when he slams on his brakes while I'm playing Angry Birds.

TPete19 Aug 15, 2012 11:00 AM

Who cares what MPG you can hit for one instant? :dunno:

Speed up to 155, put car in neutral, reset computer... World record MPGs!!!

hookah Aug 15, 2012 11:08 AM

Great... Look at what you started! :suicide:

PerfZ Aug 15, 2012 01:04 PM

Seriously? WTF is the point of this thread? Getting 50 MPG over the course of consuming one ounce of fuel means absolutely nothing. The trip computer is good only for those who are totally incapable of dividing miles since the last fill-up by the gallons pumped at the next fill-up. What is it about this that leads to so many pointless threads? :dunno:

F34RL355 Aug 15, 2012 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Waffle_SS (Post 9847043)
If you're worried about fuel economy find a big rig and cruise behind him. Less drag=more MPG.

I think I hit 50 MPG one time









I cannot seem to get the last comment by F3ARL355 I think

^^yes because its the final grade that matters! so 95 is not an accurate representation of his mark....

realist alive Aug 15, 2012 02:48 PM

get on my level lol

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...0z/photo87.jpg

DavesZ#3 Aug 15, 2012 03:01 PM

^^^ I knew there was a picture floating around here

realist alive Aug 15, 2012 04:50 PM

I achieved this while traveling across the skyway bridge in tampa/stpete. I reached the top then put it in neutral reset computer at 75mph and coasted till i hit the bottom.


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