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btatbui1820 05-07-2018 04:36 PM

Wheel Replacement Questions
 
One side of our 2004 Nissan 350Z Touring wheels are bent very bad. We looked in various places and see the same wheel with two different part numbers 40300CD026 and/or 40300CD028. Why does the same wheel having two different part number? Looking for suggestions for replacement wheels based on your experience. 1) Fix the current set of front and back rim. 2) Buy a used set from Junk Yard (mostly no pictures, but some pictures looked pretty bad) 3) Buy refurbished set of rims.(pictures available). When refurbished, we see that they repainted the rim beautifully. Do they also check and fix bent or out of round areas? Thanks

MicVelo 05-07-2018 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by btatbui1820 (Post 10955053)
One side of our 2004 Nissan 350Z Touring wheels are bent very bad. We looked in various places and see the same wheel with two different part numbers 40300CD026 and/or 40300CD028. Why does the same wheel having two different part number? Looking for suggestions for replacement wheels based on your experience. 1) Fix the current set of front and back rim. 2) Buy a used set from Junk Yard (mostly no pictures, but some pictures looked pretty bad) 3) Buy refurbished set of rims.(pictures available). When refurbished, we see that they repainted the rim beautifully. Do they also check and fix bent or out of round areas? Thanks

Well, first off, the PNs you quoted are not for 18" Touring wheels, these numbers correspond to the Base and Enthusiast 17s. And on those, I'd surmise that one PN is for the front 7.5" and the other for the 8.0" rear.

Base/Enthusiast wheel:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/my350z....9793bedf49.jpg

These are the 18" (Touring V.1s) that were used for the '03-05 Touring model.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/my350z....800c07aa4b.jpg

40300-CD129 Front
40300-CD185 Rear

What puzzles me about these PNs is that they ARE the identical size, 18x8. :dunno:

S'far as re-furb'd wheels, most of the shops you'll find that do/sell re-furb wheels do check them. Can't guarantee that but look at the source's ratings (say, on EBay or wherever) and use your best judgement. I bought some factory wheels for my Benz from a refurb company and they're awesome, no issues.

tmdz 05-07-2018 06:01 PM

On the oem sites it lists one of those part numbers as Made in Taiwan, the other is listed as Made in USA. Since they apparently have Enthusiast wheels on a Touring maybe they just got them from a junk yard or something.

btatbui1820 05-07-2018 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by MicVelo (Post 10955074)
Well, first off, the PNs you quoted are not for 18" Touring wheels, these numbers correspond to the Base and Enthusiast 17s. And on those, I'd surmise that one PN is for the front 7.5" and the other for the 8.0" rear.

Base/Enthusiast wheel:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/my350z....9793bedf49.jpg

These are the 18" (Touring V.1s) that were used for the '03-05 Touring model.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/my350z....800c07aa4b.jpg

40300-CD129 Front
40300-CD185 Rear

What puzzles me about these PNs is that they ARE the identical size, 18x8. :dunno:

S'far as re-furb'd wheels, most of the shops you'll find that do/sell re-furb wheels do check them. Can't guarantee that but look at the source's ratings (say, on EBay or wherever) and use your best judgement. I bought some factory wheels for my Benz from a refurb company and they're awesome, no issues.

The car is 2004 Touring with 5 speed automatic. The 17 inch wheels are the original wheels that came with the car. Perhaps, Touring has two wheel options? 17 or 18 inch wheels?

Thanks,

terrasmak 05-07-2018 09:26 PM

Touring auto came with 17’s while the 6 speed got 18’s.

Different part numbers for the 18x8 wheels, has to do with the odd stud on the front rotor. The rear specific wheel will not fit up front, unless you remove the mystery stud.

MicVelo 05-08-2018 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by terrasmak (Post 10955105)
Touring auto came with 17’s while the 6 speed got 18’s.

Different part numbers for the 18x8 wheels, has to do with the odd stud on the front rotor. The rear specific wheel will not fit up front, unless you remove the mystery stud.

Good info, terrasmak. Never knew the Touring came with those.

And that "mystery stud", hahahahahaha. Never heard it called that. I like. More like, "the useless mystery stud that gets thrown away on first wheel change".

JMII 05-08-2018 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by MicVelo (Post 10955120)
Never knew the Touring came with those

Can confirm. My '03 Touring 6 speed came with the same wheels. 6 spokes with a 5 lug pattern! :dunno: WTF? So I swapped in the much better looking V2 Touring wheels (available '05-'07), but still have the stockers in the shed.

MicVelo 05-08-2018 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by JMII (Post 10955201)
Can confirm. My '03 Touring 6 speed came with the same wheels. 6 spokes with a 5 lug pattern! :dunno: WTF? So I swapped in the much better looking V2 Touring wheels (available '05-'07), but still have the stockers in the shed.

JM-was that you that said that about 6 spokes and 5 lugs in some other post? Been thinking about that and never gave it much thought until you (or whomever said it.) Wow, you must be more OCD than me! Hahahahaha.

But gee, what about all the other nice 6 spokers out there like Track V.1s or TE37s or RPF1s (well, sort of) or Advan RGs or..... ?? :icon17:

Symmetry thing, eh? Laff....

SQuaLZ 05-08-2018 11:55 AM

I have a set painted pearl white if you are interested. They were my winter wheels, but I don't need them anymore since i have a truck now.

terrasmak 05-08-2018 12:02 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/my350z....c2e44c71f9.png
Info on the auto

btatbui1820 05-08-2018 12:35 PM

Thanks. Just bought a 17 inch wheel for one side (front and rear off). All four wheels are bent and out of round per Costco when they put on the new tires, but one side is very bad so replacing those. Even rolling at slow speed, we can feel the car going up and down as well as slight sways.

Cheers,

dboyzalter 05-08-2018 02:22 PM

Throw those 17s in the trash and get new wheels. What part of Mass are you from? I'll sell you my track wheels for $600 with the tires if your wanting to keep things oem.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/my350z....7cf36f2883.jpg

JMII 05-08-2018 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by MicVelo (Post 10955220)
JM-was that you that said that about 6 spokes and 5 lugs in some other post? Been thinking about that and never gave it much thought until you (or whomever said it.) Wow, you must be more OCD than me! Hahahahaha.

But gee, what about all the other nice 6 spokers out there like Track V.1s or TE37s or RPF1s (well, sort of) or Advan RGs or..... ?? :icon17:

Symmetry thing, eh? Laff....

Yes it was me... this is just one of things I never understood about wheel design. I have 5 lugs so who decided the wheel should have 6 spokes? Apparently someone who can't count! A mutant with 6 fingers? :icon8:

Now (as mentioned) you can pull of the 6 spokes with 5 lugs deal if the design includes some kind of center hub (like TE37s) which visually separates the wheel/spoke from the hub. The advantage here is a single wheel design or signature "look" can be made functional with 4, 5 or 6 lugs. Back in day when 16" were considered big wheels many designs featured a (removable) center cap that covered the lugs so it didn't matter. However today almost all wheels feature exposed lugs so the pattern mismatch becomes more obvious. And I am not a fan of that misaligned look.

Even on the Track Wheels the V2s look so much better then the V1s because the lugs are aligned so nicely with the spokes. I guess its the partial engineer in me but its seems logically that each spoke should have a corresponding lug for maximum boltage (I just made up that term :icon17: ). However I can see where the odd count / non symmetry of 5 spokes bothers some people :icon43:

Truthfully my real hate on the V1 Touring wheels is just because they really look bad / ugly: the weird soft gray color (which matches NOTHING on the car), the slightly cupped center section, the round yet just a little flat spokes... ICK :icon16: the misalignment just makes things worst :icon39:

dboyzalter 05-08-2018 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by JMII (Post 10955282)
Yes it was me... this is just one of things I never understood about wheel design. I have 5 lugs so who decided the wheel should have 6 spokes? Apparently someone who can't count! A mutant with 6 fingers? :icon8:

Now (as mentioned) you can pull of the 6 spokes with 5 lugs deal if the design includes some kind of center hub (like TE37s) which visually separates the wheel/spoke from the hub. The advantage here is a single wheel design or signature "look" can be made functional with 4, 5 or 6 lugs. Back in day when 16" were considered big wheels many designs featured a (removable) center cap that covered the lugs so it didn't matter. However today almost all wheels feature exposed lugs so the pattern mismatch becomes more obvious. And I am not a fan of that misaligned look.

Even on the Track Wheels the V2s look so much better then the V1s because the lugs are aligned so nicely with the spokes. I guess its the partial engineer in me but its seems logically that each spoke should have a corresponding lug for maximum boltage (I just made up that term :icon17: ). However I can see where the odd count / non symmetry of 5 spokes bothers some people :icon43:

Truthfully my real hate on the V1 Touring wheels is just because they really look bad / ugly: the weird soft gray color (which matches NOTHING on the car), the slightly cupped center section, the round yet just a little flat spokes... ICK :icon16: the misalignment just makes things worst :icon39:

Im sorry for posting a picture of the not engineering friendly v1s.. Here is a picture of the summer wheels to help make up for the horror.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/my350z....242bb0b470.jpg

Only thing I cant get over on the v1s is the offset

MicVelo 05-08-2018 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by dboyzalter (Post 10955283)
Im sorry for posting a picture of the not engineering friendly v1s.. Here is a picture of the summer wheels to help make up for the horror.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/my350z....242bb0b470.jpg

Only thing I cant get over on the v1s is the offset

C'mon Mike, we're talkin' stock 8/8.5s. OEM applications rarely go aggressive because the mfgrs have to account for everything that can fail and anything aggressively offset DOES put undue (read: non-OEM) type stress on the bearings.

And, the suspension was designed to use those "conservative" wheels and "skinny" OE tires. To this day, I cannot TRULY say that my 5-SPOKE, 5-LUG uber wheels handle that much better than my Track V.1s with sticky tahrs other than from an ultimate grip perspective. Turn in and return was/is simply amazing with the Tracks.

Just givin' you a hard time because you say the same thing about the Track offset as many times as I USED TO mention, ahem, "driving school". Laff....

Here, to satisfy JM's detestment of the 6 on 5 arrangement....
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/my350z....5c49c9747a.jpg
...and look, the lugs line up with the spokes!! :D:icon17: Heeheeheeevil I am.

btatbui1820 05-08-2018 07:09 PM

Those wheels looks great. Unfortunately, tires are purchased and wheel is on-route.

JMII 05-09-2018 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by MicVelo (Post 10955346)
Here, to satisfy JM's detestment of the 6 on 5 arrangement....
...and look, the lugs line up with the spokes!! :D:icon17: Heeheeheeevil I am.

I approve, those look so nice :thumbup:

Now talk about HORROR... my Dakota has 6 lugs, but only 5 spokes :suicide: why Dodge? why? :icon30:

tmdz 05-09-2018 09:14 AM

Alright since we already on-topic:

The 6MT Touring model came with 18" wheel standard - Were those 18x8" front and rear or 18x8" front and 18x8.5" rear?

I've read that they are 18x8 on all four. Is that correct?

SQuaLZ 05-09-2018 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by tmdz (Post 10955455)
Alright since we already on-topic:

The 6MT Touring model came with 18" wheel standard - Were those 18x8" front and rear or 18x8" front and 18x8.5" rear?

I've read that they are 18x8 on all four. Is that correct?

To my knowledge, all OEM wheel sets for the 350Z are staggered.

terrasmak 05-09-2018 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by SQuaLZ (Post 10955465)
To my knowledge, all OEM wheel sets for the 350Z are staggered.

And you are wrong. The early wagon wheels were 18x8 all around, but the tires were staggered


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