Engine upgrades/other advice needed
05-21-2018, 09:58 PM
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Engine upgrades/other advice needed
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05-22-2018, 05:56 AM
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If you rear-ended someone hard enough to damage your engine I'd say you most likely damaged lots of other stuff too.
In short, no - forget about upgrades. Focus on getting it running, and driving straight again. In your position you should be happy if you ever get to drive the car again.
In short, no - forget about upgrades. Focus on getting it running, and driving straight again. In your position you should be happy if you ever get to drive the car again.
05-22-2018, 06:09 AM
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Anyways the crash caused engine damage, and cracked the cover to the timing chain, and now the crank will only turn 180 degrees so obviously some internal damage has happened. Took it to a mechanic, and he said i probably cracked a rod which i highly doubt dude just sounded like he was trying to get me to pay him to engine swap.
If you hit someone hard enough to crack your timing chain case and cause internal damage than you were driving WAY too fast and not giving yourself enough room to stop ... this is on you - not the dude you hit.
You've got insurance right? File a claim with insurance and be done with it.
if you want 500hp easy and cheap, find a civic
Your best bet will be to find a salvaged car and swap engines with an otherwise OEM engine.
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05-22-2018, 08:11 AM
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This is why I have dash cams in my cars, but the Z is the fastest stopping car I've owned (non-bremo brakes on mine)So, I couldn't see someone out braking me that's been in my lane unless they merged into my lane and then slammed on their brakes, but only half of their car made it into my lane(if that makes sense)
^^^ I think they mean $500 not 500hp ^^^ I thought the same thing at first
^^^ I think they mean $500 not 500hp ^^^ I thought the same thing at first
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05-22-2018, 09:17 AM
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There is nothing cheap and easy about 500hp ... a legitiment 500hp engine will cost you $15k by the time your done with internals, fuel, FI, ECU, cooling, etc.
if you want 500hp easy and cheap, find a civic
Your best bet will be to find a salvaged car and swap engines with an otherwise OEM engine.
if you want 500hp easy and cheap, find a civic
Your best bet will be to find a salvaged car and swap engines with an otherwise OEM engine.
I think OP meant $500, not 500hp. I'm not familiar with the HR motors,
OP. we were all stupid teenagers at one point, we've all made mistakes, and we've all tried to make excuses as to why they weren't our fault. That's why your BS story is so easy to see through. If you were following the guy at a safe distance, you wouldn't have wrecked your car, or at least you wouldn't have hit the guy hard enough to damage the block (which, being a front-midship, is actually pretty hard to do). Furthermore, if you could tell that he was looking at you, and for whatever reason he "purposely tried to cause a crash because he saw a teenage white boy driving a nice car", then you should have been more attentive and maybe not driven 70mph behind the guy.
It's unfortunate that you had to learn this lesson the hard way, but it would benefit you to learn from it, and to be more attentive to the cars around you. Maybe convince your parents to pay for a defensive driving class at your local road course!
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05-22-2018, 02:48 PM
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05-22-2018, 06:45 PM
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Forget about the upgrades. You might need that $500 for incidentals to get the engine back to OE spec. Nothing wrong with a NA HR Z. Be safe and learn to anticipate the unexpected. I do and I even drive with the headlights on 24/7......
05-23-2018, 10:27 AM
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First off - stop being a victim and sack-up ... being a crybaby puss will get you A. no where in life and B. 3 post on this forum, you'll call everyone a$$holes and then leave (which is fine by us).
If you rear-ended someone, that's YOUR fault, not theirs ... you shouldn't have been driving so close or so fast that you couldn't stop YOUR car...
If you hit someone hard enough to crack your timing chain case and cause internal damage than you were driving WAY too fast and not giving yourself enough room to stop ... this is on you - not the dude you hit.
You've got insurance right? File a claim with insurance and be done with it.
There is nothing cheap and easy about 500hp ... a legitiment 500hp engine will cost you $15k by the time your done with internals, fuel, FI, ECU, cooling, etc.
if you want 500hp easy and cheap, find a civic
Your best bet will be to find a salvaged car and swap engines with an otherwise OEM engine.
If you rear-ended someone, that's YOUR fault, not theirs ... you shouldn't have been driving so close or so fast that you couldn't stop YOUR car...
If you hit someone hard enough to crack your timing chain case and cause internal damage than you were driving WAY too fast and not giving yourself enough room to stop ... this is on you - not the dude you hit.
You've got insurance right? File a claim with insurance and be done with it.
There is nothing cheap and easy about 500hp ... a legitiment 500hp engine will cost you $15k by the time your done with internals, fuel, FI, ECU, cooling, etc.
if you want 500hp easy and cheap, find a civic
Your best bet will be to find a salvaged car and swap engines with an otherwise OEM engine.
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05-23-2018, 10:28 AM
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This is why I have dash cams in my cars, but the Z is the fastest stopping car I've owned (non-bremo brakes on mine)So, I couldn't see someone out braking me that's been in my lane unless they merged into my lane and then slammed on their brakes, but only half of their car made it into my lane(if that makes sense)
^^^ I think they mean $500 not 500hp ^^^ I thought the same thing at first
^^^ I think they mean $500 not 500hp ^^^ I thought the same thing at first
05-23-2018, 10:33 AM
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I think OP meant $500, not 500hp. I'm not familiar with the HR motors, but I think the standard advice (plenum spacer) still makes power on the HR motor for less than $500 EDIT: Nevermind, HR has the new plenum design, I thought that started with the VQ37.. Having said that, if you're looking to replace internals to make more power.. it'll cost more than $500 for noticeable gains. Otherwise I completely agree, OP needs to take responsibility for his actions.
OP. we were all stupid teenagers at one point, we've all made mistakes, and we've all tried to make excuses as to why they weren't our fault. That's why your BS story is so easy to see through. If you were following the guy at a safe distance, you wouldn't have wrecked your car, or at least you wouldn't have hit the guy hard enough to damage the block (which, being a front-midship, is actually pretty hard to do). Furthermore, if you could tell that he was looking at you, and for whatever reason he "purposely tried to cause a crash because he saw a teenage white boy driving a nice car", then you should have been more attentive and maybe not driven 70mph behind the guy.
It's unfortunate that you had to learn this lesson the hard way, but it would benefit you to learn from it, and to be more attentive to the cars around you. Maybe convince your parents to pay for a defensive driving class at your local road course!
OP. we were all stupid teenagers at one point, we've all made mistakes, and we've all tried to make excuses as to why they weren't our fault. That's why your BS story is so easy to see through. If you were following the guy at a safe distance, you wouldn't have wrecked your car, or at least you wouldn't have hit the guy hard enough to damage the block (which, being a front-midship, is actually pretty hard to do). Furthermore, if you could tell that he was looking at you, and for whatever reason he "purposely tried to cause a crash because he saw a teenage white boy driving a nice car", then you should have been more attentive and maybe not driven 70mph behind the guy.
It's unfortunate that you had to learn this lesson the hard way, but it would benefit you to learn from it, and to be more attentive to the cars around you. Maybe convince your parents to pay for a defensive driving class at your local road course!
05-23-2018, 01:05 PM
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All I can say is good luck with life - reality on reality's terms...
so YOU rear-ended this guy, driving at a legal speed, with ample stopping distance, not distracted because of warped rotors ... ok man, sure!
so the hitch went through your bumper/structural bumper/condenser/radiator/fans/shroud and then proceeded to crack your timing chain case & damage engine internals to the point where the engine wont crank?
How fast were you driving? and you had ample stopping distance? and you had enough reaction time? and this is all bc of warped rotors....rrrrriiiiiiiggghhhhttttttt...
so YOU rear-ended this guy, driving at a legal speed, with ample stopping distance, not distracted because of warped rotors ... ok man, sure!
How fast were you driving? and you had ample stopping distance? and you had enough reaction time? and this is all bc of warped rotors....rrrrriiiiiiiggghhhhttttttt...
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05-23-2018, 03:18 PM
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05-23-2018, 04:29 PM
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All I can say is good luck with life - reality on reality's terms...
so YOU rear-ended this guy, driving at a legal speed, with ample stopping distance, not distracted because of warped rotors ... ok man, sure!
so the hitch went through your bumper/structural bumper/condenser/radiator/fans/shroud and then proceeded to crack your timing chain case & damage engine internals to the point where the engine wont crank?
How fast were you driving? and you had ample stopping distance? and you had enough reaction time? and this is all bc of warped rotors....rrrrriiiiiiiggghhhhttttttt...
so YOU rear-ended this guy, driving at a legal speed, with ample stopping distance, not distracted because of warped rotors ... ok man, sure!
so the hitch went through your bumper/structural bumper/condenser/radiator/fans/shroud and then proceeded to crack your timing chain case & damage engine internals to the point where the engine wont crank?
How fast were you driving? and you had ample stopping distance? and you had enough reaction time? and this is all bc of warped rotors....rrrrriiiiiiiggghhhhttttttt...
Ummmmm you don't know the situation, the op was driving with faulty brakes he was saving up to get fixed so it wasn't his fault at all...
Was 90% the other guys fault
And 10% the cars fault
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05-23-2018, 04:31 PM
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better?
05-23-2018, 11:40 PM
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You just walked into a hornet's nest best to access the damage by your insurance carrier total it and start from scratch,seems like the damage was pretty serious to damage a crankcase regardless how it was damaged,your story just doesn't hold much water so just take inconsideration your talking to car people with a lot of experience,so just embrace the wisdom and come correct if you want some good advice!!