How Much Airspace Can I Get Out Of The Hatch?
hey guys so i just picked up 2 skar audio vvx v2 12's, I've been wanting to get back into audio for a while now and i finally decided to start my build. These subs require a good 1.5 cubic feet per sub so 3.0 total for a good ported box tuned at about 32-33hz, has anyone ever built a box that big for our cars? I've done some researching but all i found was either sealed boxes or a box with 2 15's which I'm not sure was sealed or ported.
Your guys help will be greatly appreciated! also can you guys point me to the list of shops in socal, i remember theres a list of shops/people that do certain work but i can't find it for the life of me, I'm looking for someone to build a custom sub box for me thanks! |
Used to be a website called zenclosures or something like that. They had a bunch of prebuilt boxes that fit in the tight confines of the hatch. Don't know how well they worked, never had any subs in my car.
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If I remember correctly, the total cargo area for the Z33 hatch was six cubic feet. No idea on any shops in your area...
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I never understood taking a sports car like the Z and adding hundreds of pounds of unneeded stereo equipment. Sure and aftermarket deck, speakers and a simple sub I can see because I really do love my music some days but honestly why did you buy a Z if you are not interested in performance? This is an honest question and I am not trying to be a dick. Please help me understand.
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Originally Posted by 350zHalleck
(Post 10440958)
I never understood taking a sports car like the Z and adding hundreds of pounds of unneeded stereo equipment. Sure and aftermarket deck, speakers and a simple sub I can see because I really do love my music some days but honestly why did you buy a Z if you are not interested in performance? This is an honest question and I am not trying to be a dick. Please help me understand.
But honestly, I would not want to have that kind of setup in my Z, or any other sport cars, because I just wanna go fast in a car and nothing else. And if I really want to enjoy a great sound of music, it has to be at home with a proper stereo system setup. That's just me, my preference. |
Originally Posted by dkmura
(Post 10440940)
If I remember correctly, the total cargo area for the Z33 hatch was six cubic feet. No idea on any shops in your area...
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Originally Posted by 350zHalleck
(Post 10440958)
I never understood taking a sports car like the Z and adding hundreds of pounds of unneeded stereo equipment. Sure and aftermarket deck, speakers and a simple sub I can see because I really do love my music some days but honestly why did you buy a Z if you are not interested in performance? This is an honest question and I am not trying to be a dick. Please help me understand.
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Originally Posted by 350zHalleck
(Post 10440958)
I never understood taking a sports car like the Z and adding hundreds of pounds of unneeded stereo equipment. Sure and aftermarket deck, speakers and a simple sub I can see because I really do love my music some days but honestly why did you buy a Z if you are not interested in performance? This is an honest question and I am not trying to be a dick. Please help me understand.
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I have had a system in the Z 98% of the time I have owned it. First I tried to keep it small and hidden but it still wasn't quite cutting it. The Blose sucked, the first setup sucked.
Finally I filled the whole back of the car with gear and I finally liked it. I have a rack in front of the strut bar at an angle with both my amps mounted on it and my second battery tucked under it. My EQ and Epicenter are on a plate in the hole where the factory sub used to be. Then after 5 years my custom made 12 in a sealed box was getting so worn out I was running half the power I started with just to keep it from bottoming out. So out they come and in goes the pair of 10's that's been sitting around for about 2 years. Gutted the back, made a false floor so the box has a flat surface to sit on. Attachment 401757 New box with the old box in the background Attachment 401758 And with it installed. Attachment 401759 Then in reply to the guy above. I bought the car because it was the only thing that fit my desires. I wanted something relatively inexpensive, good fuel miles, decent performance, 2 door, rear wheel drive, manual transmission. That leaves you with either a Mustang, Camaro or 350Z. I'm 6'4" 300lbs. My knees are against the dash in a mustang, my head hits the roof in a Camaro, and there is a ton of room in a 350Z. Plus around here you can't look out your window without seeing a mustang drive by. If I want to go fast I do it on 2 wheels. The Z is my daily. |
I forgot, box is 2.3 cubes @33hz. It was as big as would fit in the car. I had to take the corner support brackets out to get the box to drop in.
Also, don't build boxes when it's a billion degrees outside and you're sick. |
off the top of my head give or take
mine is 31" - 32" wide height 15" maybe a tad higher depth 20" maybe a tad deeper single 15" sub up port to drivers side rear corner 30 - 33 hertz |
Mine is 38 x 16 x 10 sitting on a 1/4" sheet of plywood with 2x4's on the bottom for supports standing up on their tall side. Just low enough to sit under the corner supports and just wide enough that it wont be able to move around. It's not going anywhere.
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Originally Posted by 92K1500
(Post 10441825)
I forgot, box is 2.3 cubes @33hz. It was as big as would fit in the car. I had to take the corner support brackets out to get the box to drop in.
Also, don't build boxes when it's a billion degrees outside and you're sick. |
Originally Posted by jdmfetish
(Post 10441913)
off the top of my head give or take
mine is 31" - 32" wide height 15" maybe a tad higher depth 20" maybe a tad deeper single 15" sub up port to drivers side rear corner 30 - 33 hertz |
Originally Posted by kennyy
(Post 10442307)
i had a 15" sundown that everyone said wouldn't work in my trunk i wish i knew this before i sold it and got 2 12's. Are you utilizing any of the spare tire well I'm assuming yes since its 15" of height right?
no reason you can not use a 15 " , if box is on the acceptable end of internal space requirements , this also allows you to use more power on it |
Yeah my trunk is gutted too. I don't even have the little cardboardish pieces in the corners.
If you don't put a false floor in it you can get a bit more room. It will just take lots of measuring to make sure you can fit it through the opening. |
@jdmfetish @92k1500 okay guys so i just finished stripping the trunk, i took the spare tire out when i bought the car and i cut the spare tire bracket out today. Im surprised at the room there is in the trunk without the floor, I found a shop that can build me a box so now I'm just waiting for my next day off to drop the car off I'm gonna hope to get a box made at around 3.0 cubic feet maybe a bit lower and tuned at 32-33hz. Once the box is built I'm gonna have them make kind of a faceplate to put on top of the box just to hide all the dead space thats gonna be leftover and to make it look cleaner.
Just out of curiosity what way should i face my port, usually i face it away from the driver but in this case I'm not too sure. I feel my subs are gonna destroy my hatch if i face it up towards the hatch or just make my bumper fall off if i face it to the rear bumper LOL do you guys think it would sound good if i face it to the driver? i know its better to face it away cause the air bounces off the back but in this case I'm not too sure since the z's cockpit isn't that big |
I think you should sell the 2 12's and go back to 1 15
if you do that than driver up , and slot port to the driver side of box in the rear corner 2 , 12 may make it harder to figure how your port will be but 2 12's will also go drivers up another option is sell both 12 's and buy a 1 12 , but a really crazy 12 , like a fi btl , or dd 9512 or sundown ns v3 |
Originally Posted by jdmfetish
(Post 10444314)
I think you should sell the 2 12's and go back to 1 15
if you do that than driver up , and slot port to the driver side of box in the rear corner 2 , 12 may make it harder to figure how your port will be but 2 12's will also go drivers up another option is sell both 12 's and buy a 1 12 , but a really crazy 12 , like a fi btl , or dd 9512 or sundown ns v3 i was planning on it but i start school in 2 weeks and i want to finish the build asap cause once i start school ill also be working so i will have virtually no time at all to work on the car let alone leave it places for box builds. The skar subs i have right now are extreme loud they're pretty much the same exact as sundown but a different owner (same designer) and i had 2 sa12's before and i like the skar subs better, i feel 2 of these will be over kill for my little z lol! and thats that i love LOUD and deep bass but oh well :bowrofl: the shop thats building my box has been in the audio business for 25+ years so I'm hoping they'll know what way to face the port I'm probably over planning it i should just let them decide what will sound best =] |
If you don't plan on competing I would do sub up port passenger back.
That's how mine is set up. The port it a little bit choked off but it still works. |
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