Anyone here got a BSP Z ?
06-17-2007, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jun14scr
Let's see.... Well, I haven't been to 1 event this season.... and I'm selling my car for a 335i. Haha. Maybe I'll buy some r's for that and run FS?
davidv, what tires are you running?
06-17-2007, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
davidv, what tires are you running?
06-17-2007, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3. This is my second autocross season, and I am not ready for R-compound tires. Goodyear tires are predictable. Of course the do break traction, but the slide is gradual. Very pleased with performance.
06-18-2007, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by vince1611
Do you know what he had to do to get a 330 crank HP BSP Z? I've searched and googled his name without any results.
I'm at 262 WHP on my BSP Z...I've got all the mods allowed (but no rebuild of the engine)
here's my BSP Z:
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06-29-2007, 10:07 PM
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Just wanted to clarify a couple of points I've seen here. I've been running a BSP Z for a couple years now (no where near competitive yet, the drivers need to improve).
1) you can't just upgrade to the brembo system from the track Z. This comes from the B Stock rules (which are the base rules for BSP, with only a few exceptions). You can only do this if you take the entire car to Track spec, ie- install the VDC (if that's even possible), etc. Otherwise, you're not allowed to change disc diameter. And the rules make no mention of a caliper change, although I'm not sure whether the Brembo system utilizes a significantly different caliper. Basically, if you go to a BBK system, welcome to SM2...welcome to my world.
2) The real threat in BSP, at least in a national Pro Solo format is the STi's and Evos. With all wheel drive and forced induction that can easily be cranked up to 400 horsepower within the rules, I think a Z would be hard pressed to compete at a national level. I would go so far as to think it impossible, as sad as I am to say that. The rules need to change
1) you can't just upgrade to the brembo system from the track Z. This comes from the B Stock rules (which are the base rules for BSP, with only a few exceptions). You can only do this if you take the entire car to Track spec, ie- install the VDC (if that's even possible), etc. Otherwise, you're not allowed to change disc diameter. And the rules make no mention of a caliper change, although I'm not sure whether the Brembo system utilizes a significantly different caliper. Basically, if you go to a BBK system, welcome to SM2...welcome to my world.
2) The real threat in BSP, at least in a national Pro Solo format is the STi's and Evos. With all wheel drive and forced induction that can easily be cranked up to 400 horsepower within the rules, I think a Z would be hard pressed to compete at a national level. I would go so far as to think it impossible, as sad as I am to say that. The rules need to change
06-29-2007, 11:09 PM
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Ahh, the dreaded AWD cars. All of the disadvantages of a FWD car, and very few (none?) of the advantages of a rear wheel drive car.
The AWD rally cars go straight *really* well, however turning is not their strong suit. On the other hand, the Z does a decent job of accelerating, very well at turning, and very well at stopping. For ProSolo, the AWD Rally cars are hard to beat, but at Solo, it would be a race.
The AWD rally cars go straight *really* well, however turning is not their strong suit. On the other hand, the Z does a decent job of accelerating, very well at turning, and very well at stopping. For ProSolo, the AWD Rally cars are hard to beat, but at Solo, it would be a race.
06-30-2007, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by T Money
2) The real threat in BSP, at least in a national Pro Solo format is the STi's and Evos. With all wheel drive and forced induction that can easily be cranked up to 400 horsepower within the rules, I think a Z would be hard pressed to compete at a national level. I would go so far as to think it impossible, as sad as I am to say that. The rules need to change
(just need skills like Takumi
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06-30-2007, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by T Money
1) you can't just upgrade to the brembo system from the track Z. This comes from the B Stock rules (which are the base rules for BSP, with only a few exceptions). You can only do this if you take the entire car to Track spec, ie- install the VDC (if that's even possible), etc. Otherwise, you're not allowed to change disc diameter. And the rules make no mention of a caliper change, although I'm not sure whether the Brembo system utilizes a significantly different caliper. Basically, if you go to a BBK system, welcome to SM2...welcome to my world.
However to be legal you must use factory parts, except the rotor which can be cross-drilled/slotted but must be OE diameter, no aftermarket calipers or brackets to facilitate the install.
15.1.C. Equipment and/or specifications may be exchanged between
different years and models of a vehicle if (a) the item is standard
on the year/model from which it was taken, and (b) the years/
models are listed on the same line of Appendix A (Street Prepared
Classes). The updated/backdated part or the part to which
it is to be attached may not be altered, modified, machined or
otherwise changed to facilitate the updating/backdating allowance.
Standard factory installation methods, locations, and configurations
are allowed. The updating and/or backdating of engines,
transmissions or transaxles must be done as a unit; component
parts of these units may not be interchanged. Cars not
listed in the Street Prepared sections of Appendix A may not be
updated/backdated until approved by the SEB and published in the
official SCCA publication.
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06-30-2007, 10:53 PM
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I must have misunderstood this rule. But what your citing is a rule that says that you may update a part that comes standard for a different year. Is something that comes on a Track model standard for an enthsiast model, etc.? The rule I was citing comes from the stock rule (which is the base rule before the exceptions for Street Prepared are outlined):
Option package conversions may be performed between specific
vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between
configurations from within a particular model year. Such
conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must
meet all requirements of this Section. Alternate parts listed in a
factory parts manual are not authorized unless their use is
specifically referenced in the factory service manual or in a service
bulletin for the specific model.
Maybe I misunderstood. If so, I appoligize and stand corrected. So, by this interpertation, I can use the wheels from the track Z in BS? (I know this isn't a stock thread, but you seem to be an authority, and I'm curious).
Option package conversions may be performed between specific
vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between
configurations from within a particular model year. Such
conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must
meet all requirements of this Section. Alternate parts listed in a
factory parts manual are not authorized unless their use is
specifically referenced in the factory service manual or in a service
bulletin for the specific model.
Maybe I misunderstood. If so, I appoligize and stand corrected. So, by this interpertation, I can use the wheels from the track Z in BS? (I know this isn't a stock thread, but you seem to be an authority, and I'm curious).
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06-30-2007, 11:01 PM
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technically, you can only do it if you also got the brembos, the VDC, the bodykit, etc. it's a stupid rule, but i dont makle the rules
Originally Posted by T Money
I must have misunderstood this rule. But what your citing is a rule that says that you may update a part that comes standard for a different year. Is something that comes on a Track model standard for an enthsiast model, etc.? The rule I was citing comes from the stock rule (which is the base rule before the exceptions for Street Prepared are outlined):
Option package conversions may be performed between specific
vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between
configurations from within a particular model year. Such
conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must
meet all requirements of this Section. Alternate parts listed in a
factory parts manual are not authorized unless their use is
specifically referenced in the factory service manual or in a service
bulletin for the specific model.
Maybe I misunderstood. If so, I appoligize and stand corrected. So, by this interpertation, I can use the wheels from the track Z in BS? (I know this isn't a stock thread, but you seem to be an authority, and I'm curious).
Option package conversions may be performed between specific
vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between
configurations from within a particular model year. Such
conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must
meet all requirements of this Section. Alternate parts listed in a
factory parts manual are not authorized unless their use is
specifically referenced in the factory service manual or in a service
bulletin for the specific model.
Maybe I misunderstood. If so, I appoligize and stand corrected. So, by this interpertation, I can use the wheels from the track Z in BS? (I know this isn't a stock thread, but you seem to be an authority, and I'm curious).
07-01-2007, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by T Money
I must have misunderstood this rule. But what your citing is a rule that says that you may update a part that comes standard for a different year. Is something that comes on a Track model standard for an enthsiast model, etc.? The rule I was citing comes from the stock rule (which is the base rule before the exceptions for Street Prepared are outlined):
Option package conversions may be performed between specific
vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between
configurations from within a particular model year. Such
conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must
meet all requirements of this Section. Alternate parts listed in a
factory parts manual are not authorized unless their use is
specifically referenced in the factory service manual or in a service
bulletin for the specific model.
Maybe I misunderstood. If so, I appoligize and stand corrected. So, by this interpertation, I can use the wheels from the track Z in BS? (I know this isn't a stock thread, but you seem to be an authority, and I'm curious).
Option package conversions may be performed between specific
vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between
configurations from within a particular model year. Such
conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must
meet all requirements of this Section. Alternate parts listed in a
factory parts manual are not authorized unless their use is
specifically referenced in the factory service manual or in a service
bulletin for the specific model.
Maybe I misunderstood. If so, I appoligize and stand corrected. So, by this interpertation, I can use the wheels from the track Z in BS? (I know this isn't a stock thread, but you seem to be an authority, and I'm curious).
07-01-2007, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by T Money
I must have misunderstood this rule. But what your citing is a rule that says that you may update a part that comes standard for a different year. Is something that comes on a Track model standard for an enthsiast model, etc.? The rule I was citing comes from the stock rule (which is the base rule before the exceptions for Street Prepared are outlined):
Option package conversions may be performed between specific
vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between
configurations from within a particular model year. Such
conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must
meet all requirements of this Section. Alternate parts listed in a
factory parts manual are not authorized unless their use is
specifically referenced in the factory service manual or in a service
bulletin for the specific model.
Maybe I misunderstood. If so, I appoligize and stand corrected. So, by this interpertation, I can use the wheels from the track Z in BS? (I know this isn't a stock thread, but you seem to be an authority, and I'm curious).
Option package conversions may be performed between specific
vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between
configurations from within a particular model year. Such
conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must
meet all requirements of this Section. Alternate parts listed in a
factory parts manual are not authorized unless their use is
specifically referenced in the factory service manual or in a service
bulletin for the specific model.
Maybe I misunderstood. If so, I appoligize and stand corrected. So, by this interpertation, I can use the wheels from the track Z in BS? (I know this isn't a stock thread, but you seem to be an authority, and I'm curious).
07-28-2007, 11:22 AM
#100
Originally Posted by rsmokinjoe
This is my first year and the local region told me I was in BSP...
Nismo CAI
ACT SS Clutch
Injen Dual Exhaust
Stock 16x8 FD wheels (still on street tires)
Nismo CAI
ACT SS Clutch
Injen Dual Exhaust
Stock 16x8 FD wheels (still on street tires)