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h0pes 10-02-2008 02:14 PM

Nürburgring lap times for 350Z with an HR
 
Hey guys,

I was wondering why the only 350Z data they have at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times

Was that of the 350Z that they had in 2003. Wouldn't the HR's run a better time? Or are they not allowed to use a later model version of the car?

Kwame 10-02-2008 03:45 PM

Just a guess, but I would assume because Nurburgring lap times are usually used as a marketing tool for manufacturers. Since the Z33 body style first came out in 2003 that of course would be the model year to run on the ring since it was a brand new model at that point in time. I don't think Nissan thought it would benefit them to go out and hire a race car driver or even pay one of their top engineers and spend whatever money it costs to run a car on the ring AGAIN just for a slightly updated motor.

The fact of the matter is that the creation of HR motor was just another way for Nissan to insure that 350Z sales remained strong throughout the years and/or to possibly fight off a decrease in sales (as you can see, I don't really care much for car sales figures).

Fluid1 10-02-2008 04:03 PM

Go to Germany
Rent 350Z HR
Drive the 'Ring
Post

warmmilk 10-02-2008 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Fluid1 (Post 6376957)
Go to Germany
Rent 350Z HR
Rent the track for a couple hours to ensure that you dont run into traffic
Hire a pro driver to Drive the 'Ring
Post

fixed

thinking 10-02-2008 05:47 PM

Considering there was always a 350z (and 911 Turbo) following the GT-R around during testing, they certainly could have taken the opportunity if they wanted...

SOLO-350Z 10-02-2008 05:49 PM

NISMO HR at the ring would make a lower time compared to a 2003 350z.

blasian 10-02-2008 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by warmmilk (Post 6377019)
fixed

Real racers drive in traffic :D

warmmilk 10-02-2008 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by blasian (Post 6377379)
Real racers drive in traffic :D

agreed, but track records are set on open tracks

Kwame 10-02-2008 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z (Post 6377377)
NISMO HR at the ring would make a lower time compared to a 2003 350z.

Ok

citymunky 10-02-2008 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z (Post 6377377)
NISMO HR at the ring would make a lower time compared to a 2003 350z.

Fairlady Z NISMO TYPE 380RS-Competition would make a lower time compared to a NISMO 350Z.

Slow*Jim 10-03-2008 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Fluid1 (Post 6376957)
Go to Germany
Rent 350Z HR
Drive the 'Ring
Post

Go to Blockbuster
Rent Gran Turismo 4
do 5 laps with all aids turned off

Wait for GT5 to come out

BenchTT 10-03-2008 12:08 PM

I had this same question a few months ago and never found an answer. If an answer is found in the future please post up the time.

thx

Nihilation 10-16-2008 05:06 AM

I suspect that the Nismo 350Z laps about 8:20 with a pro driver.

DirtyZead 10-29-2008 02:45 PM

How did an 08 Colbalt make suck a good time???

Snowhiteboiler 10-29-2008 04:43 PM

I am pretty sure the only 'official' lap times for the 'Ring are those that are set during sanctioned racing events... all of this chatter over the last couple of years about 'track records' are just manufacturers puffing out their chests. No times taken during either open laping (there is a great BMW M3 CSR video out there) or private sessions count for anything other than bragging rights. Even then, these times aren't verified by anyone and there isn't a standard established for them (e.g. tires, setups, fuel, etc.). Yeah, it is nice there is a time for the '03 Z, but I doubt that Nissan would want to put any other 350s on there with all the controversy over the current times with the GT-R (and Porsche, Viper, ZR1, etc.).

Like Fluid1 and Wammilk said, go rent one and report back to us your time - and videos would be nice, too. Better yet, see if you can borrow Sharif's car...

Nihilation 10-30-2008 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by DirtyZead (Post 6491010)
How did an 08 Colbalt make suck a good time???

Because it's superbly engineered and GM doesn't get enough credit for this car. The new Cobalt SS is amazing for a FWD sports coupe.

mhoward1 10-30-2008 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by Nihilation (Post 6493157)
Because it's superbly engineered and GM doesn't get enough credit for this car. The new Cobalt SS is amazing for a FWD sports coupe.

Yet people will still knock it because it looks like the base model. I predict the Cobalt SS will dominate it's SCCA class this year unless it get's bumped up.

0jiggy0 10-30-2008 04:55 AM

doesnt the saturn sky have the same engine? guy at my job has one, pretty sick car.

Nihilation 10-30-2008 04:59 AM

The Saturn Sky Redline model has the same 260hp turbo engine as the Pontiac Solstice GXP I think. Just look for the dual exhaust.

Aj Wells 03-06-2018 03:20 PM

cobalt has a fast time because it's arguably the best handling fwd car, and it made 290 something hp with gm's factory warrantied stage 1 kit/tune.


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