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pezzo33 07-14-2006 05:19 AM

STi/EVO Brembos on a Z car? Possible?
 
Ok, I have searched for the last 20 minutes, cant find anything.

I was told yesterday that the Brembo brake calipers, front and rear, are the same between teh Mitscu EVO, Subie STi, and the 350z.

Therefore, the STi or EVO brake calipers bolt right up to the Z
New rotors, and go.

Can anyone confrim this, or lead me in the right directions?
I can get a set of Red EVO brembo calipers, front and rear, for about $500, and would be a nice upgrade for my touring edition.

thanks!
Barry

Nano 07-14-2006 06:52 AM

I think they are different

the caliper body is the same, but piston size differ (or something like that)

NA350Z 07-14-2006 07:02 AM

Dude you're not the first, I would really like to know if the calipers fit b/c, then Id just pick up a set of EVO/STI calipers and fit them. Its too good to be true.

pezzo33 07-14-2006 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Nano
I think they are different

the caliper body is the same, but piston size differ (or something like that)

But smaller piston Brembos > than OEM brakes

sti is in teh 3200+ pound range, and power wise the same as a 350z, so stopping power should be fine.

Im more worried about the caliper bolting up fine to the hub and rotor.

tHisZ_bFAST 07-14-2006 07:39 AM

Front:
350Z = RSX Type R (Japan Spec)
Evo = STi

Rear:
Evo = STi = 350z

davidf 07-14-2006 08:02 AM

I thought of this a while back cause I have the gold brembos and would like the red ones on the EVO.

Mike Wazowski 07-14-2006 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by davidf
I thought of this a while back cause I have the gold brembos and would like the red ones on the EVO.

Just paint them red for $30.00 and you are set.

pezzo33 07-14-2006 08:10 AM

dont tell him that!
let him sell me the gold ones first :)

NA350Z 07-14-2006 12:29 PM

So what about mounting them on a Z?

StopTech 07-14-2006 01:05 PM

Short answer: no.. nothing will fit on another car except the pads

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension/171940-g35-trackz-brembo-s-vs-sti-brembo-s.html#post2120223
here's another thread.. same question
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1053466

nlzmo400r 07-14-2006 01:27 PM

the calipers are different. I have a 240sx and put on the STi/Evo set up not too long ago. The calipers used on the jdm ITR (dc5) and the 350z are the same. 4 piston brembo caliper....samed one used on the ferrari f40. The ones from the evo/sti are from the ferrari f50 (little bit bigger caliper/pistons). The evo/sti rears will bolt up to the 350z, however the fronts will not. Hope that clears up everything.

z350boy 07-14-2006 01:42 PM

MY GOD!!!!!!!!!! EVO parts on a Z??????? What manner of madness is this??? Are we to prance about naked and ranting and raving like wild animals????? Please make this insanity stop!!! :icon11:

eyustfu 07-14-2006 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by z350boy
MY GOD!!!!!!!!!! EVO parts on a Z??????? What manner of madness is this??? Are we to prance about naked and ranting and raving like wild animals????? Please make this insanity stop!!! :icon11:

They're still brembos, whats the big deal? So no to brembos on 350z/G35's?

StopTech 07-14-2006 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by z350boy
MY GOD!!!!!!!!!! EVO parts on a Z??????? What manner of madness is this??? Are we to prance about naked and ranting and raving like wild animals????? Please make this insanity stop!!! :icon11:

:icon18:

Ok .. for everyone else here are the differences.
Evo Front D1001 pad piston size 40/46 rear D961 pad piston size 40mm

Sti Front D1001 pad piston size 40/46 rear D961 pad piston size 36mm

G35/350z Brembo D960 piston size 44/38 rear D961 piston size 40mm

This isn't even counting rotor size differences. For Pete's sake even if you did manage to get and evo/sti caliper to fit on the Z, the balance would be wrong and performance would worse than you are stock.

But hey.. it looks cool right?

boogiemyke 07-14-2006 03:50 PM

What about the Brembos that come on the Sentra?

Edit: nevermind...discs for the Z are .6" larger in diameter for the front

E K 07-14-2006 05:57 PM

You can't just look at the rotor size to tell if two calipers are the same. It all depends on where the calipers are mounted. Two cars can both be using 12" rotors, but the calipers could be seated differently compared to the rotational center.

I really don't think the rear brembos on the 350z/Evo/Sti are the same. All three front calipers are different. If you just glance at them, you'll think they are identical, but if you look really carefully, you'll find many differences.

Plus, if you want red brembos, you can always paint or powdercoat the 350z/G35 brembos.

Here's a pic of my painted brembos on the G35:
http://www.fototime.com/DE56F87FE856A5B/orig.jpg

Z1 Performance 07-17-2006 07:03 PM

listen to StopTech :)

nlzmo400r 07-18-2006 09:22 AM

the evo and STi front brembo's are THE SAME. maybe different mounting locations, but the caliper itself is the same. The rotors are a little different in size/offset, but nonetheless the calipers are the same. As I said before these are 'f50 spec' brembo calipers. The rears off of the g35/Z/evo/STi are all the same caliper as well. The front calipers off of the Z/G35/JDM ITR/ Spec V are 'f40 spec' brembo's.

KhanMan 07-18-2006 10:42 AM

So if the rear are the same as people are stating could this mean we could possibly get rear brembo off an STI or EVO and use them. Or will the mounting and rotor size be an issue? This is not to clear because I am getting mixed results.

BloMyS14 07-18-2006 10:50 AM

nlzmo400r knows! Here are his brakes on his S13. STI calipers with redrilled EVO rotors and Ferodo pads.
Front
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/8665/img00018at1.jpg
Rear
http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/8400/img00016hp5.jpg
Side
http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/1913/img00014el6.jpg

dklau33 07-18-2006 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by nlzmo400r
the evo and STi front brembo's are THE SAME. maybe different mounting locations, but the caliper itself is the same. The rotors are a little different in size/offset, but nonetheless the calipers are the same. As I said before these are 'f50 spec' brembo calipers. The rears off of the g35/Z/evo/STi are all the same caliper as well. The front calipers off of the Z/G35/JDM ITR/ Spec V are 'f40 spec' brembo's.

So you're saying the evo and sti front brembo calipers have the same exact piston sizing as well? And the same for the rear?

E K 07-18-2006 11:45 AM

Are the calipers/rotors sitting correctly? It looks like there is a bit of overhang on the caliper, meaning that the rotor might not be big enough based on those pics.

I always thought that the G35/350z brembos are based off the Lotus Calipers. The F40 calipers have external brake piping on the lower edge.

KhanMan 07-18-2006 09:37 PM

Man this thread needs some clearing up to weed out what is false and what is real. Like a stickey or something about the 350Z/G vs evo vs STI brakes vs what ever elses cars come with brembos(like the Cobra, Sentra and SVT Focus.)

Z1 Performance 07-19-2006 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by tHisZ_bFAST
Front:
350Z = RSX Type R (Japan Spec)
Evo = STi

Rear:
Evo = STi = 350z

This is true for the PADS that are used (actually front Evo pads are a tad thicker than the STi ones, but most people use them interchangeably), the calipers are still different internally (pistons) as well as how they mount.

No weeding is necessary - Stoptech already correctly identified the issues. If you want Brembo's on your car, you have to find someone with a track model or with a G35 coupe that is selling them, or get them new from the dealer. That's the only way to get a proper set of the brakes onto your Z.

The piston sizes between front and rear on the Z are totally different than they are on any other car you can readily get the brakes from. Once again, scan down to Stoptech's posts and you'll see the answers.

Soundeffects 07-19-2006 08:26 AM

Look what I found on EBAY-brand new F40 calipers loaded with pads going cheap $300 right now, or buy it now at $650 it looks like a steal

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ME:B:BCB:MT:11

I just made a new topic about this..

On a separate note if you really want the OEM ones I have a front set of 350z gold Brembo's with new seals and new rotors (cross drilled/slotted and gold zinc plated, check with me later on today and I should have a price for those.)

Z1 Performance 07-19-2006 08:29 AM

but they wont fit so it does not matter ^

drumma022 07-19-2006 04:40 PM

The STI front brakes has bolt holes close to the edge of the calipers ... 350z brembos have the mounting holes closer together. I have never made a brake bracket, but IMO the thing about the S13 is that the stock brakes will allow an easier made spacer that the 350z. I think the stoptech bracket looks like it would be pretty close,

STI Brembo http://www.autoconsult.as/images/tb/17_8.jpg

350z brembo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...f/DSC01340.jpg

E K 07-19-2006 06:18 PM

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Those are Sentra SE-R brembos, rather than the 350z ones. These calipers will look similar, but if you really look close, you can tell the difference.

Reyes_USN 07-21-2006 02:41 PM

spacers are closer on the Z/G35's Brembos...if youre gonna shell out the money to buy Brembos you might as well nab the OEM that way theres no "will this fit my car/why do my brakes feel funny" less headache...then again Endless, Stop Tech and Rotora makes some great brakes too

Brandon Kurtz 04-24-2019 07:20 AM

so just to be clear, the evo rear calipers won't even work on the Z?

travlee 04-24-2019 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Brandon Kurtz (Post 10991209)
so just to be clear, the evo rear calipers won't even work on the Z?

13 year dead thread sir


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