best spring/drop without using camber kit?
can anyone help me which one of the springs is the best for the Z without sacrificing comfort and without buying a camber kit? is tababe a good choice or the H&R?
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I have Eibach pro kit... rides good no camber issuse and good drop
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I got the Tanabe NF210's installed today from Rick at Status. It looks awesome, i can't believe i waited 8 months after getting my 19" volks GT-V's to get springs. It feels great to me, I don't really notice a harsher/rougher ride. If the Z was my daily driver I don't think it would be a problem. Its a perfect drop IMO with my 19" 9.5f 245 AND 10.5R 275 Toyos. I haven't scraped on any speed bumps or driveways either. But the camber is off and you can not correct it back to specs without a kit (That's what I've read here).
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hotchkis all the way.
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Originally Posted by UCLAzzz
I got the Tanabe NF210's installed today from Rick at Status. It looks awesome, i can't believe i waited 8 months after getting my 19" volks GT-V's to get springs. It feels great to me, I don't really notice a harsher/rougher ride. If the Z was my daily driver I don't think it would be a problem. Its a perfect drop IMO with my 19" 9.5f 245 AND 10.5R 275 Toyos. I haven't scraped on any speed bumps or driveways either. But the camber is off and you can not correct it back to specs without a kit (That's what I've read here).
post some pic's up man..i got the nf210's and looking into some 19's later...so hit us up with a pic |
I have the Tein s.tech springs... the drop is less than an inch and the ride is a little firmer but not uncomfortable at all. The car feels a lot better.
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Originally Posted by Nexx
hotchkis all the way.
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Originally Posted by UCLAzzz
I got the Tanabe NF210's installed today from Rick at Status. It looks awesome, i can't believe i waited 8 months after getting my 19" volks GT-V's to get springs. It feels great to me, I don't really notice a harsher/rougher ride. If the Z was my daily driver I don't think it would be a problem. Its a perfect drop IMO with my 19" 9.5f 245 AND 10.5R 275 Toyos. I haven't scraped on any speed bumps or driveways either. But the camber is off and you can not correct it back to specs without a kit (That's what I've read here).
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Originally Posted by aznride1983
can anyone help me which one of the springs is the best for the Z without sacrificing comfort and without buying a camber kit? is tababe a good choice or the H&R?
Eibach 350Z Pro-kit progressive springs 1”/1” Spring rates in LBS initial/final front 296/384 initial/final rear 316/421 Eibach 350Z sportline progressive springs 1.2"/1.2" Front: 239/400 Rear: 257/435 RSR 350Z linear springs .6”/.6” drop on 350Z (hard to find I've been told) Spring rates in LBS 345/417 Hotchkis 350Z Linear springs .6”/.8” Spring rates in lbs 340/330 Tein S-tech 350z (fronts are progressive, rears are linear) .7”/.6” Spring rates in lbs 386/402 (final rates only, softer initial front progressive rate unknown) Tein H-tech 350z linear springs .3”/.2” Spring rates in LBS 358/375 Tokico D-spec shock & spring package 350Z - DSK512 - 375f/375r - Linear Springs 1"/1" Tanabe GF210 Series 350Z progressive springs 1”/1.2” Spring rates in LBS 336/375 (only peak rates are published, softer initial progressive rates unknown) Tanabe NF210 Series 350Z linear springs 1.2”/1.2” Spring rates in LBS 314/353 Swift 350Z linear springs .8”/.6” drop on 350Z Spring rates in LBS 336/364 Nismo T2 350Z Linear springs 1”/1” drop on 350Z (Too stiff for D-spec shocks and especially oem shocks) Listed for information ONLY! Spring rates in LBS 625/700 Vogtland 350z progressive springs 1”/1” Spring rates in LBS initial/final front 257/354 initial/final rear 285/422 Kg/mm springs 350Z DR21 super sport 15mm drop Spring rates in lbs initial/final front 246/398 initial/final rear 252/409 Kg/mm springs 350Z DRacing 30mm drop Spring rates in LBS initial/final front 252/454 initial/final rear 252/482 rear Whiteline 350Z linear springs (control) Front: Part # 73219, Spring rate 365 LBS Drop: .8"-1" Rear: Part # 73220 Spring rate 445LBS Drop: 1"-1.2" (sold as 2 front springs and 2 rear springs) www.whiteline.com.au/store/ Espelir 350Z progressive springs 10mm drop F&R 386/515 H&R sport springs 350Z progressive springs 1.3"/1" no spring rate info H&R refuses to give it out, something that is critical to making a informed buying decision, buyer beware Oem springs: 350Z 2003/2004 (unrevised suspension) Front:314 Rear:342 Oem springs: 350Z 2004.5 to 2006 (revised suspension) Front:314 Rear:427 |
ek. None of them look too good vs stock on a lowered setup on tokiko D specs.
What are tokiko spring specs? Im concidering those, RSR and eibach prokit, leaning toward the prokit.. |
Originally Posted by plumpzz
ek. None of them look too good vs stock on a lowered setup on tokiko D specs.
What are tokiko spring specs? Im concidering those, RSR and eibach prokit, leaning toward the prokit.. Why do you think none of the springs look good vs oem "on D specs"? |
Originally Posted by Gsedan35
If your bent on keeping the car within oem alignment specs you need to limit the amount of drop to .8" or less.
Eibach 350Z Pro-kit progressive springs 1”/1” Spring rates in LBS initial/final front 296/384 initial/final rear 316/421 Eibach 350Z sportline progressive springs 1.2"/1.2" Front: 239/400 Rear: 257/435 RSR 350Z linear springs .6”/.6” drop on 350Z (hard to find I've been told) Spring rates in LBS 345/417 Hotchkis 350Z Linear springs .6”/.8” Spring rates in lbs 340/330 Tein S-tech 350z (fronts are progressive, rears are linear) .7”/.6” Spring rates in lbs 386/402 (final rates only, softer initial front progressive rate unknown) Tein H-tech 350z linear springs .3”/.2” Spring rates in LBS 358/375 Tokico D-spec shock & spring package 350Z - DSK512 - 375f/375r - Linear Springs 1"/1" Tanabe GF210 Series 350Z progressive springs 1”/1.2” Spring rates in LBS 336/375 (only peak rates are published, softer initial progressive rates unknown) Tanabe NF210 Series 350Z linear springs 1.2”/1.2” Spring rates in LBS 314/353 Swift 350Z linear springs .8”/.6” drop on 350Z Spring rates in LBS 336/364 Nismo T2 350Z Linear springs 1”/1” drop on 350Z (Too stiff for D-spec shocks and especially oem shocks) Listed for information ONLY! Spring rates in LBS 625/700 Vogtland 350z progressive springs 1”/1” Spring rates in LBS initial/final front 257/354 initial/final rear 285/422 Kg/mm springs 350Z DR21 super sport 15mm drop Spring rates in lbs initial/final front 246/398 initial/final rear 252/409 Kg/mm springs 350Z DRacing 30mm drop Spring rates in LBS initial/final front 252/454 initial/final rear 252/482 rear Whiteline 350Z linear springs (control) Front: Part # 73219, Spring rate 365 LBS Drop: .8"-1" Rear: Part # 73220 Spring rate 445LBS Drop: 1"-1.2" (sold as 2 front springs and 2 rear springs) www.whiteline.com.au/store/ Espelir 350Z progressive springs 10mm drop F&R 386/515 H&R sport springs 350Z progressive springs 1.3"/1" no spring rate info H&R refuses to give it out, something that is critical to making a informed buying decision, buyer beware Oem springs: 350Z 2003/2004 (unrevised suspension) Front:314 Rear:342 Oem springs: 350Z 2004.5 to 2006 (revised suspension) Front:314 Rear:427 |
Sorry missed the tokiko. Most of them are softer than the stock setup. Although im aware soft doesnt mean bad handling, i'd rather have a linear spring with around stock numbers. I can't fathom why something would be 20% softer than stock for handling..
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ok, so if i do get camber..which one do i get? the A camber link;or Toe link? or both.? do the front need it too or just the back tires?
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G35sedan - they gotta make your spec posts a sticky!!!!
you will need the rear SPC kit only - it does camber and toe. Front camber is not adjustable but even slightly more than stock is a good thing. Stock toe is adjustable plumpzz- there are easily as many springs on there stiffer than stock as there are softer. Keep in mind too that while the specs help things, they are by no means a final authority. How the car "feels" overal is as much dependant on your tires and tire pressure as they are on your shock and spring combo. I've used almost all of the springs listed above on one of 2 tires (T1S and S03's) with only a few exceptions. Rideheight aside, they all felt remarkably similar in day to day driving conditions. Yes there are some differences but they are not nearly as night and day as, say a 40-60 lb change in spring rate would appear to make. We've been using the Hotchkis and Tein S Tech mainly, whereas the RSR used to be the go to spring before the availability issues came about. Both the Tein and Hotchkis have worked out wonderfully on early cars as well as newer ones, with a variety of wheel and tire combos |
hotchkis ftw
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Remember the extreme WIDE oem alignment specs are for warranty not optimum handling nor tire wear.
Always align to the perfect midpoint of published acceptable range to achieve ideal conditions. This is the error most make assumming in spec is ok! |
Originally Posted by Gsedan35
If your bent on keeping the car within oem alignment specs you need to limit the amount of drop to .8" or less.
Eibach 350Z Pro-kit progressive springs 1”/1” Spring rates in LBS initial/final front 296/384 initial/final rear 316/421 Eibach 350Z sportline progressive springs 1.2"/1.2" Front: 239/400 Rear: 257/435 RSR 350Z linear springs .6”/.6” drop on 350Z (hard to find I've been told) Spring rates in LBS 345/417 Hotchkis 350Z Linear springs .6”/.8” Spring rates in lbs 340/330 Tein S-tech 350z (fronts are progressive, rears are linear) .7”/.6” Spring rates in lbs 386/402 (final rates only, softer initial front progressive rate unknown) Tein H-tech 350z linear springs .3”/.2” Spring rates in LBS 358/375 Tokico D-spec shock & spring package 350Z - DSK512 - 375f/375r - Linear Springs 1"/1" Tanabe GF210 Series 350Z progressive springs 1”/1.2” Spring rates in LBS 336/375 (only peak rates are published, softer initial progressive rates unknown) Tanabe NF210 Series 350Z linear springs 1.2”/1.2” Spring rates in LBS 314/353 Swift 350Z linear springs .8”/.6” drop on 350Z Spring rates in LBS 336/364 Nismo T2 350Z Linear springs 1”/1” drop on 350Z (Too stiff for D-spec shocks and especially oem shocks) Listed for information ONLY! Spring rates in LBS 625/700 Vogtland 350z progressive springs 1”/1” Spring rates in LBS initial/final front 257/354 initial/final rear 285/422 Kg/mm springs 350Z DR21 super sport 15mm drop Spring rates in lbs initial/final front 246/398 initial/final rear 252/409 Kg/mm springs 350Z DRacing 30mm drop Spring rates in LBS initial/final front 252/454 initial/final rear 252/482 rear Whiteline 350Z linear springs (control) Front: Part # 73219, Spring rate 365 LBS Drop: .8"-1" Rear: Part # 73220 Spring rate 445LBS Drop: 1"-1.2" (sold as 2 front springs and 2 rear springs) www.whiteline.com.au/store/ Espelir 350Z progressive springs 10mm drop F&R 386/515 H&R sport springs 350Z progressive springs 1.3"/1" no spring rate info H&R refuses to give it out, something that is critical to making a informed buying decision, buyer beware Oem springs: 350Z 2003/2004 (unrevised suspension) Front:314 Rear:342 Oem springs: 350Z 2004.5 to 2006 (revised suspension) Front:314 Rear:427 Does this apply to roadster too (2005)? The roadster sits lower than the coupe in the rear. I had hotchkis springs on the coupe and my alignment was almost perfect. Anybody have a roadster with the hotchkis springs without camber kit? Tony |
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