Less weight = more power; Have you lightened your Z?
04-15-2005, 03:04 AM
#221
when i removed the spare tire, i found the car's handling very different. it was so easy to spin out and fish tail on a straight line heheh. however, the care did feel quicker..
so the question is, although the car does feel peppier when losing some weight, shouldnt you lose it in the right areas so as to not throw off the balance of the car?
so the question is, although the car does feel peppier when losing some weight, shouldnt you lose it in the right areas so as to not throw off the balance of the car?
04-15-2005, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jkoc
when i removed the spare tire, i found the car's handling very different. it was so easy to spin out and fish tail on a straight line heheh. however, the care did feel quicker..
so the question is, although the car does feel peppier when losing some weight, shouldnt you lose it in the right areas so as to not throw off the balance of the car?
so the question is, although the car does feel peppier when losing some weight, shouldnt you lose it in the right areas so as to not throw off the balance of the car?
Get an alignment. 1/4in. toe in on the back will fix that problem right up.
Mass weight loss under optimum cirumstance should be accompanied by an adjustable suspension so you can tune for the weight loss. I cannot run such a suspension and also have very limited means of reducing weight. But I have dropped 150 lbs out of the trunk and with an alignment I was able to tune the car to be very neutral for auto-X. If I had an adjustable suspension I could just lower the back a little to balance the weight out but I don't.
04-15-2005, 05:42 AM
#224
Originally Posted by del105
Get an alignment. 1/4in. toe in on the back will fix that problem right up.
Mass weight loss under optimum cirumstance should be accompanied by an adjustable suspension so you can tune for the weight loss. I cannot run such a suspension and also have very limited means of reducing weight. But I have dropped 150 lbs out of the trunk and with an alignment I was able to tune the car to be very neutral for auto-X. If I had an adjustable suspension I could just lower the back a little to balance the weight out but I don't.
Mass weight loss under optimum cirumstance should be accompanied by an adjustable suspension so you can tune for the weight loss. I cannot run such a suspension and also have very limited means of reducing weight. But I have dropped 150 lbs out of the trunk and with an alignment I was able to tune the car to be very neutral for auto-X. If I had an adjustable suspension I could just lower the back a little to balance the weight out but I don't.
06-09-2005, 10:09 AM
#225
Back from the dead. I got my z weighed with 1/2 a tank and it came in at 3049 pounds. Not bad considering I have a roll bar with padding, 14" rotors front and rear, and a nitrous kit 
I should be under 3K in a few months when I get a Ti exhaust and remove the factory side mirrors, front speakers, and passenger air bag.
Keep this thread alive
I should be under 3K in a few months when I get a Ti exhaust and remove the factory side mirrors, front speakers, and passenger air bag. Keep this thread alive
06-09-2005, 02:10 PM
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track brake calipers weigh much less than standard ones. the rotors weigh a little more.
My track Z weighs in at 2350 with 1/2 tank of fuel and driver, but its a 73
My track Z weighs in at 2350 with 1/2 tank of fuel and driver, but its a 73
06-09-2005, 02:15 PM
#228
Originally Posted by 2003z
track brake calipers weigh much less than standard ones. the rotors weigh a little more.
My track Z weighs in at 2350 with 1/2 tank of fuel and driver, but its a 73
My track Z weighs in at 2350 with 1/2 tank of fuel and driver, but its a 73
07-19-2005, 10:58 PM
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Engineers from Novidem, a supercharger company in Germany drilled lot´s of holes in the front metal-bumper (behind the front bumper) which looks like a swiss cheese now. Anyway, 1,5 kg (!!!) less. This car is mainly used for Track use (Strosek 350Z-R (www.strosek.de).
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07-19-2005, 11:04 PM
#231
Originally Posted by freeflydodger
Engineers from Novidem, a supercharger company in Germany drilled lot´s of holes in the front metal-bumper (behind the front bumper) which looks like a swiss cheese now. Anyway, 1,5 kg (!!!) less. This car is mainly used for Track use (Strosek 350Z-R (www.strosek.de).
Greets
Marc
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07-20-2005, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rickdogg
Back from the dead. I got my z weighed with 1/2 a tank and it came in at 3049 pounds. Not bad considering I have a roll bar with padding, 14" rotors front and rear, and a nitrous kit I should be under 3K in a few months when I get a Ti exhaust and remove the factory side mirrors, front speakers, and passenger air bag.
Keep this thread alive
I should be under 3K in a few months when I get a Ti exhaust and remove the factory side mirrors, front speakers, and passenger air bag. Keep this thread alive
07-20-2005, 07:17 AM
#235
Originally Posted by del105
The Enkeis with race tire weigh 40lbs front 41lbs rear.
350Z Wheels Standard 17" Alum Alloy
F-17x7.5 + Bridgestone RE040 225/50R17
23.259lbs + 28lbs = 51.259lbs x 2 = 102.518lbs
R-17x8 + Bridgestone RE040 225/50R17
24.140lbs + 29lbs = 53.14lbs x 2 = 106.28lbs
102.518lbs(F) + 106.28lbs(R) = 208.798lbs
208.798lbs - 162lbs =46.798lbs
Not calling you a liar b/c I haven't weighed the stock wheels myself...47lbs is still nothing to sneeze at, just want to make sure our numbers are accurate here. Your numbers would indicate the stock 17' wheel/tire combo weighs an average of 60.5 lbs/ea.! Is that right?
b.t.w. wheel weights are from here and tire weights are from here.
07-20-2005, 08:12 AM
#236
removing the power steering is tempting
get like 8 more whp, lose 20 lbs up front, 1 less thing to overheat, better steering feel at speed, etc
but I'm not so sure about daily driven. It might get annoying as hell
might be worthwhile if the car has some huge weigh savings since the less it weighs, the better the steering will feel
get like 8 more whp, lose 20 lbs up front, 1 less thing to overheat, better steering feel at speed, etc
but I'm not so sure about daily driven. It might get annoying as hell
might be worthwhile if the car has some huge weigh savings since the less it weighs, the better the steering will feel
07-21-2005, 10:21 AM
#238
I'm kinda curious about relocating the battery to the rear of the car for the sake of better balance and rear traction.
I haven't heard of anyone doing it yet. I know it'll ultimately weigh the car down more overall, but balance and rear grip would improve
I haven't heard of anyone doing it yet. I know it'll ultimately weigh the car down more overall, but balance and rear grip would improve
07-21-2005, 10:28 AM
#239
Originally Posted by sentry65
I'm kinda curious about relocating the battery to the rear of the car for the sake of better balance and rear traction.
I haven't heard of anyone doing it yet. I know it'll ultimately weigh the car down more overall, but balance and rear grip would improve
I haven't heard of anyone doing it yet. I know it'll ultimately weigh the car down more overall, but balance and rear grip would improve
07-21-2005, 10:35 AM
#240
well it's pros and cons. The more weight up front makes it easier to transfer the weight to the front when braking and turning, so handling improves with more weight up front...to a point
less weight up front, and more in the rear adds some oversteer too
less weight up front, and more in the rear adds some oversteer too