Zthirtythree

turbo is great for automatics

NA is preferred by real drivers
why?

reliable powerband
thats all i have to say,

thank you

Fyrestrike

Wow, thats pretty ignorant.

Moroccan_Mole

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KIMUTAKU

Zthirtythree:

u are just kidding right???

if not...then u are pretty dumb...sorry to say that but u are...

Intrepid

Thanks for popping by with those words of wisdom.

joeshow750

Guess Cart drivers aren't real drivers.

joeshow750

LithossZ

he's from DC.. no wonder......

(just joking btw )

n3985

So...what kind of car do you drive? Because it was something like a Spoon S2000 that revs to 9600rpm, then I understand where you're coming from, if not...

TJZ

dumb people

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Zthirtythree

wow, hey guys.

just one day and so many replies.

no i am serious. what do you not understand? do you think its cool to have turbo not be there when you need it and then spool up when you dont want it? because it can do that.

turbo in an automatic is fine and very fast because as an automatic transmission upshifts it hardly drops any RPMs. thus continuous exhaust pressure, and continuous boost.

most manual transmissions on turbo setups are geared so that while accelerating, the exhaust pressure always remains high enough to provide constant boost. some are not. especally those that are aftermarket.

you honestly think that you can just put a turbo on your VQ and the transmission, that was geared for a 280hp NA motor with a specific power and torque curve, will just happen to also work well on your new 350hp motor with a completely different powerband?

NOPE.

added to that. Turbos work because they are spun by exhaust pressure, correct? it might make sense to believe that at 5000rpm you will always have the same amout of exhaust pressure and thus the same about of boost thus the same amout of power.... no wait... that doesnt make any sense. a lot of factors must come into play before you can figure out how much exhaust pressure you are going to have at any given moment. this ends up resulting in power that is unpredictable at anygiven moment. the bigger the turbo, the more unpredictable. cut your chances by using a turbo with maybe only 4-6psi of boost and you are usally ok. because i dont know about you, but i like knowing that when i downshift around a turn and open the throttle, im going to have power that i can relie on and predict.

oh yeah, by the way. CART drivers dont choose to put turbos on their cars, they drive because they like to drive and get paid. FORMULA one cars are by far more impressive and are of course NA. gear ratios will always determine who accelerates faster or has a higher top speed when it comes to F! vs CART. but who can argue to the fact that Williams BMW's 1000+Hp NA motor is by far more sexy than a turbo charged 900hp v-10 from toyota that 8 different teams run.

n3985

I ask my question again, what car do you drive? Because if you think a BMW 1000HP engine is nice, what displacement was it? Like 10 liters? and how much gas does it burn on WOT?

Zthirtythree

hi yall,

me again, just replying to this last one. just in case you didnt know Fomula 1 has a engine restriction of 3000cc. thats 3liters for you american folk. the BMW P82 motor is a 90degree V-10 and drives on 94 octane pump fuel provided by SHELL. its all regulation.

any more questions?

n3985

Which also revs to 19,000rpm and cost millions of dollars. I have a question, what kind of car do you drive (3rd time)? Have you ever driven an aftermarket turbocharged vehicle? If yes, what was it?

TJZ

good call

joeshow750

THIS IS A QUOTE FROM CART DRIVER CRISTIANO DA MATTA.
"I am glad we are staying with the turbos. You work hard your whole career to drive something with a lot of power, and then they suddenly take it away. Keeping the turbos with over 800 horsepower is what most of the drivers like to drive, and I think that is what the people want to see."

link--http://www.deepthrottle.com/Essays/02_chi_interviews.shtml

Yes, the sudden rush of a turbo is different than NA. But I would hardly call Cart cars "unpredictable." Ball bearing turbos have a low-rpm-spool (when sized correctly). Also, the problem of regaining boost lost between shifts has been all but eliminated due to the ball bearings. I do think NA cars are simpler and easier to drive...just in general more user friendly. But that's no reason to suggest that since some one prefers a turbo, he/she is "not a real driver."

Zthirtythree

wow n3985, you are so smart

i didnt know a Formula One motor costs a lot! the refrence was in context to CART you know, another expensive motorsport.

i proudly drive a 1997 honda crv that my mom gave me, because i am a college student and i am not spoiled.

thirdly, i have driven plenty of cars, some of which have had aftermarket turbos. for example a Datsun 510 with a modified sr20det, or how about a s13 240sx with a modified sr20det, and a civic EG with a 2litre b16 +turbo. even as far as stock cars, the last generation 911 turbo was pretty scary.

DONT REPLY IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING SMART TO SAY!

thanks guys!

TJZ

there's no need to get tempermental.
we usually like to play nice in this forum.