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burner Nov 25, 2008 06:58 AM

Extremely Stiff Clutch, What's the problem?
 
Hey all. After extensive searching, I cannot find a definitive answer to my question, so here goes. I have an 03 Z with 58k on it. My clutch is extremely stiff, and you cannot feel it engage when pressing it down. It has been this way since I bought the car used (about 38k on it when I bought it) and I thought it was supposed to be like that seeing as how it was a sports car. I recently have driven several other Z's and their clutches feel completely different (much easier to press, you can feel the clutch engage). The thing is, I have had my car for two years now and it has been like that since I have owned the car, and has never given me any trouble. My friends with Z's seem to think I have an aftermarket clutch, but I contacted the original owner and they informed me that it was never replaced. Nissan wanted $96 just to look at it. The mechanic told me, without actually sitting in the car, that it is probably a "characteristic" of the car. It functions perfectly and has for two years now, it is just really freakin stiff, and you can't tell when the clutch actually engages. Is there an adjustment for tension?

On the bright side, none of my friends can drive my car because the clutch feels so much different. I have gotten used to it now so it doesn't bother me all that much, I just want to know why it doesn't feel like the other 10+ Z's that I have sat in.

Someone told me the stiff clutch is a sign that it is going out, but like I said above, it has been like that for two years of hard driving (even some occasional track and drag use as well). Any advice/ideas are appreciated. Thanks!

Vas@Extended Nov 25, 2008 07:38 AM

its really hard to tell without actually driving your car.. but mine is pretty stiff too! I think the 03-04? or 05.. have really stiff clutches. The 06's are different.I think.. My buddy has an 06 and it is much softer. I am really used to it so I dont really notice it. But when I sit at my girls Honda Si.. the clutch feels like butter.

To be honest I like it the way it is. Too soft, just doesnt do it for me. I also have the D-wolf kit.. and it engages very fast.

Hopefully someone else can help ya out

35oZephyR Nov 25, 2008 08:01 AM

I'm use to it as well. Whenever I'm in another manual car it's like, "Oh wtf? where is the clutch?!?"

If it's any consolation, both legs will get the same workout.

t0mills Nov 25, 2008 08:05 AM

The clutch pedal in my 03 Z is pretty stiff too. I bought the car used, from a reputable dealership, and the car was bone stock. I thought it was normal.

However, last weekend I removed the transmission to replace the clutch fork pivot stud, and that's when I found out the car has an ACT clutch and flywheel installed.

Put the car on a lift, and pull back the rubber boot that surrounds the clutch fork. You should be able to shine a light in there and see the pressure plate. In my case, it was easy to see that it wasn't stock, because the thing is bright yellow, however, it could be a different color for you (if it's even aftermarket).

If it is indeed the stock clutch, you may just have a really strong pressure plate.

-Tim

burner Nov 25, 2008 08:22 AM

Thanks for the insight guys. I might have to check out the clutch this weekend and see if maybe it is an aftermarket. I swear my left leg is bigger than my right as I drive in traffic frequently, and that clutch is a workout!

terps Nov 25, 2008 03:23 PM

stiff clutch on 350z? common there light unless your talking about a cavalier or something

burner Nov 26, 2008 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by terps (Post 6605849)
stiff clutch on 350z? common there light unless your talking about a cavalier or something

That's the thing...when I jump in my buddies Z, the clutch feels like I am driving a 93 Civic hatchback!

Z1 Performance Nov 26, 2008 06:51 AM

03's and early 04's have significantly stiffer pedals than all later models

Chef-J Nov 26, 2008 08:13 AM

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Chef-J Nov 26, 2008 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by burner (Post 6603432)
I have an 03 Z with 58k on it. My clutch is extremely stiff, and you cannot feel it engage when pressing it down.

I'm assuming that previous's owner put an aftermarket lite flywheels/clutch.

dkmura Nov 26, 2008 08:20 AM

I agree with some of the other posts here. My pre-order '03 Z also has a strong return on the clutch. I don't worry about it much, because the engagement is positive and works well. My current clutch and flywheel are stock, so I know it's not aftermarket. No binding on the slave cylinder, I just figure it's a MANLY clutch!

ja_Z_on Nov 26, 2008 06:12 PM

Hi, I have a 2004 350z and the clutch is very stiff too. If you do your research, you will find that the clutch on 2003 and 2004 350Z models is very stiff. In 2005, the clutch was made much softer because poser people couldnt handle the stiff clutch. All Z cars 2005 to present have soft light clutches. So i wouldnt worry to much. Mine is like driving and old Mustang
5.0. If your clutch was going bad, it would bind up and would have burned up a long time ago.

I hope i was of some help:thumbup:

Stiff clutch is for REAL drivers.

Tell your friends that hahahah.

enjoy your Z

shift-er Nov 26, 2008 06:20 PM

I have an 03 and it is still stock clutch/fly.

Same scenario......

I like it.

ja_Z_on Nov 26, 2008 06:28 PM

yeah i love the heavy feel to the clutch on these older models. Its a shame they softened it so much on the newer ones=(



Originally Posted by shift-er (Post 6610887)
I have an 03 and it is still stock clutch/fly.

Same scenario......

I like it.


island03z Nov 27, 2008 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by ja_Z_on (Post 6610861)
Stiff clutch is for REAL drivers.

Tell your friends that hahahah.

enjoy your Z

Not sure you know what you're talking about... The other Z's hes referring to is me and my room mates cars and we both have early 04's and we have a lot of time on road courses. I've driven many cars with stiffer clutches from my buddies bored and stroked s2000 to my old turbo eclipse, both with stiffer ACT clutches , on the track, not to mention I can handle the clutches on a ford GT and 997 911 turbo. If you'd like to talk to a real driver sometime, give me a shout, he's looking for an answer, not some 16 year old kid bullsh!t.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure something on Burners tranny is aftermarket because it feels no where near stock. Engagement point is very grabby and pedal feel is a notch less stiff than my buddies s2k. We'll check it out one of these days when we've got it up in the air.

terrasmak Nov 27, 2008 11:21 PM

My 03 was stiff as hell, now a JWT setup and its freaking great.

airsoftluver Dec 3, 2008 12:01 AM

i test drove a few 03 and 04's and the clutches on those suckers were really stiff. Got in an 06(mine) and the clutch felt fine. It wasnt as easy as my honda nor BMW but it sure wasnt as stiff as the older Zs....

Frequency 3.5.0 Dec 5, 2008 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by t0mills (Post 6603787)
The clutch pedal in my 03 Z is pretty stiff too. I bought the car used, from a reputable dealership, and the car was bone stock. I thought it was normal.

However, last weekend I removed the transmission to replace the clutch fork pivot stud, and that's when I found out the car has an ACT clutch and flywheel installed.

-Tim

before you found out, how did you like the engagement point and the way it grabs/holds?

I have an 03, bought used for an year, and like many others with a stiffy pedal... ever since the 1st day, it has very high and short engagement point, doesn't grab well at all, jerks when let go the gas in 1st and 2nd, and many times the whole cars shudders as the clutch engages in 1st from dead stop...

all these confuse me whether my clutch is stock or not:dunno::dunno::dunno:... I already bought a street ACT kit and flywheel... I really hope the one currently sitting in my Z isn't the same setup as I bought, I'd be really screwed... but then, even for an aftermarket such ACT shouldn't perform as bad as I described above right?


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