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F2CMaDMaXX 03-07-2012 08:07 AM

MT Shifting speed...?
 
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Has anyone ever read this section from the manual and actually tried it?

As i use my 350z for my DD, there are places where it's just not a fun drive and i don't want to use any more fuel than i need to, i like to save that for the fun parts ;)

However, i consider myself able to judge where an engine feels most comfortable, and generally best for fuel economy.

Check the section from the manual (attached)

Some of those shift speeds are crazy low (in my opinion) yet, when i tried the higher gears on my cruise to work, i noticed i'm getting higher MPG on the gauge.

Has anyone else tried this?

ny garbage_juice 03-07-2012 08:11 AM

you dont need a manual you need to learn it on your own.

no one goes by that bullsh*t and of course they are gonna make the shift speeds low, they dont wanna be responsible for you blowing up your sh*t.

2nd to 3rd is funny though, i used to do easily double that before shifting

when your at redline its time to shift, pretty simple concept

kno 03-07-2012 08:19 AM

on the street i usually cruise on 6th gear after 40 mph on level roads of miami and thats crazy low rpm already (right above 1500 rpm). that chart says 6th by 33 mph id stall... poor engine. on average i shift by 3k rpm to conserve gas

bigcloud 03-07-2012 08:38 AM

Where's Alberto.....

flecko28 03-07-2012 09:42 AM

"For quick acceleration" section listed shifting up through 6th gear and still not getting over 50mph.

realist alive 03-07-2012 09:52 AM

thats way to much shifting to get to 33mph

tazicon 03-07-2012 09:53 AM

Wow if you need that book you shouldn't own a manual.

Flo-ridaZ33 03-07-2012 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by kno (Post 9642748)
on the street i usually cruise on 6th gear after 40 mph on level roads of miami and thats crazy low rpm already (right above 1500 rpm). that chart says 6th by 33 mph id stall... poor engine. on average i shift by 3k rpm to conserve gas

Agreed... I shift below 3k so the locals don't know I'm boosted.

djamps 03-07-2012 10:30 AM

F saving gas that's alot of shifting that could be saved.

Just go 1->3->6

F2CMaDMaXX 03-07-2012 10:38 AM

Haha, some funny comments ;)

Remember these manuals have to be written with the average idiot in mind, they buy cars too i'm afraid :(

I'm looking at these numbers with a mind to testing their theory of better gas mileage, so i'm experimenting with shifting earlier, though, not quite as early as they're suggesting. However, my cruising speed/gear i am paying attention to this, like i said, it's an experiment.

I too would imagine it would get worse gas mileage apparently lugging the engine that way, but, so far in my testing, it's proving true.

redline06 03-07-2012 11:08 AM

it might as well say to start off in 2nd gear

JCat 03-07-2012 11:10 AM

There's a manual on the manual ?

ny garbage_juice 03-07-2012 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by redline06 (Post 9643027)
it might as well say to start off in 2nd gear

lol :werd:

davidv 03-07-2012 12:30 PM

Cool. Another MPG thread.

terrasmak 03-07-2012 01:48 PM

That about how fast i shift, but i do skip a few gears.

350zion 03-07-2012 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by djamps (Post 9642956)
F saving gas that's alot of shifting that could be saved.

Just go 1->3->6

Agreed...

F2CMaDMaXX 03-07-2012 06:01 PM

Starting in second gear is either more slipping the clutch, or more lugging the engine. This isn't the same thing.

And no, it's not another MPG thread. As i wrote in the first post, this about the crazy recommendations in the owners manual, which, if you read the writing above the speeds, does state, THESE RELATE TO FUEL ECONOMY AND PERFORMANCE

Either way, from over 15 years of only driving manual, i would have said that following these instructions would result in bad performance and bad fuel economy.

So far, in my 2 days of testing, i've upped the MPG indicator by nearly 3 MPG from normal, it's just very bizarre driving this way.

I will stress that, for the most part, i ignored the through gears speed, i just changed about 2500 RPM and just used the cruise speed for gears.

In short, it meant i ended up cruising in a gear higher than i would have picked normally.


I just figured this was interesting and wondered if anyone else had seen/tried it and maybe gotten the same results.

Josh|Swag 03-07-2012 10:52 PM

I've now looked over that picture three times just trying to grasp the concept of shifting into 6th at 33mph.

terrasmak 03-07-2012 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by Josh|Swag (Post 9643937)
I've now looked over that picture three times just trying to grasp the concept of shifting into 6th at 33mph.

Our cars have torque, works just fine.

F2CMaDMaXX 03-08-2012 09:28 AM

Either way, most engines don't develop their usable power down there, 6th at 33/35 mph, is under 1500 RPM.

It works so long as you're not accelerating or going up hill. As i said, i'm just using them for cruising speeds right now, round town, it seems to help noticeably.


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