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350zDCalb Jun 11, 2005 07:44 PM

Anybody ever ask the engine's opinion?
 
Yah, I know, some people say that engines don't have feelings, don't talk...that sort of thing...

I want to start being more respectful of my engines' feelings... Playing the appropriate music while it was being built (Hardcore/Deathmetal, etc.), never being negative around the engine (it can sense that)..and further more, trying to put myself in my engine's place, you know, what would it be like from the engine's perspective?

What the engine sees on its way back home...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...b/snap0155.jpg

the journey ahead...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...b/snap0154.jpg

almost there...soooo close
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...b/snap0159.jpg



I know this may be the dumbest thread ever, but I wanted to share these pictures of our progress this morning (and attempt to make it amusing)

Status: Engine/tranny fully build assembled and in car
Time: Took less than 2 hours to connect the tranny (had to pull the wastegates off to clear the bell housing -thx sharif) and get the motor in the car-mounts in place... :icon23:
Future plans: I'm listening to sharif's advice, allowing the liquid gasket another day to dry, Monday morning, we'll connect all the wires/shifter/drivetrain/ hoses/fill A/C, assemble front clip / put on freshly painted bumber (had some scratches from spinning out in snow back in nov.) / get her running / begin the break-in to tune on Saturday...

I'll keep you updated on the sound of the new arias pistons! :icon38:

UnderPressure Jun 11, 2005 08:30 PM

Nice POV shots. lol
I swear it seems some motors have a personallity of their own. They have their own preferences: oil, temp, incontinance issues, etc...

cloudy Jun 11, 2005 08:35 PM

You on crack? ;)

350zDCalb Jun 11, 2005 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by cloudy
You on crack? ;)


no, i think i may have ingested some liquid gasket though :icon38:

g356gear Jun 11, 2005 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
Future plans: I'm listening to sharif's advice, allowing the liquid gasket another day to dry,

Just so you are aware.....I pulled a timing cover off my motor after 4 weeks and the grey gasket sealant was still wet. It needs heat to cure.

Damian Jun 11, 2005 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
(Hardcore/Deathmetal, etc.), never being negative


I think your engine might have been confused there :)

narkotic Jun 12, 2005 12:20 AM

no offense man..but you seriously need to get out a little more... albiet new mexico doesn't seem like a very fun place to be...

i could be wrong..

:-P

cloudy Jun 12, 2005 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by narkotic
no offense man..but you seriously need to get out a little more... albiet new mexico doesn't seem like a very fun place to be...

i could be wrong..

:-P

Your wrong, notn to do out there :P

Z BOY Jun 12, 2005 12:31 AM

are you, by chance, an American Indian?
great pix.
my "sylvia" likes marvin gaye. go figure.

350zDCalb Jun 12, 2005 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by g356gear
Just so you are aware.....I pulled a timing cover off my motor after 4 weeks and the grey gasket sealant was still wet. It needs heat to cure.


this was on a motor that was never started?

after 3 weeks of my built motor running, the gasket was still a bit tacky as well...

350zDCalb Jun 12, 2005 06:41 AM

[QUOTE=Z BOY]are you, by chance, an American Indian?
great pix.
QUOTE]


i'm a californian...newly converted to new mexican

350zDCalb Jun 12, 2005 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by narkotic
new mexico doesn't seem like a very fun place to be...

i could be wrong..

:-P

that's why we need to build fast cars... keeps us out of trouble (or in other types of trouble) :icon38:

350zDCalb Jun 12, 2005 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Damian
I think your engine might have been confused there :)


ummmm no, we ain't rasising no sissy a$$ sissy...the motor needs tough music to get ready for its life of killing vipers...

sidenote: hardcore typically is much more positive than say, deathmetal: canibal corpse, suffocation, deicide, etc... :icon38:

g356gear Jun 12, 2005 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
this was on a motor that was never started?

after 3 weeks of my built motor running, the gasket was still a bit tacky as well...

Yes....never started...just sat in a warm garage on the engine stand.

350zDCalb Jun 12, 2005 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by g356gear
Yes....never started...just sat in a warm garage on the engine stand.


how long would you estimate that it would take for the liquid gasket to fully cure on an engine that HAS been running?...

:icon28:

Sharif@Forged Jun 12, 2005 08:09 AM

The gasket material doesnt need engine heat to cure, it needs time, and high ambient temps with low humidity. This is obviously tough to do. Most people will let it dry 72hours and call it a day. Even its is tacky, it will still do the job.

For reference, from my experience, the ULTIMATE Silicon Sealant is HONDA BOND. It's available from your local Honda dealer. This stuff just smells toxic, and they use some kind of nasty super glue type stuff in the sealant as well. I have let this stuff setup for 1 hour, and no leaks. It's pretty amazine, and drys VERY quickly.

It's the only sealant I use now....you will LOVE it...and so will your engine! :D

g356gear Jun 12, 2005 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
how long would you estimate that it would take for the liquid gasket to fully cure on an engine that HAS been running?...

:icon28:

Well....one of the first engines I had was a 600 mile engine and when that one came apart it was still wet on the oilpan bolts and front timing cover. The engine was about 6 months old from production date at Nissan.

350zDCalb Jun 12, 2005 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
The gasket material doesnt need engine heat to cure, it needs time, and high ambient temps with low humidity. This is obviously tough to do. Most people will let it dry 72hours and call it a day. Even its is tacky, it will still do the job.

For reference, from my experience, the ULTIMATE Silicon Sealant is HONDA BOND. :D

if the gasket seals (so, no leaking), but isn't fully cured, what would happen if particles or even large amounts of the gasket broke off and was cruising around inside the motor? would it get filtered out in the oil filter?


sidenote: hail to hondabond, oh fearless leader :icon21: :icon30: :icon4: :icon30: :icon28:

g356gear Jun 12, 2005 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
if the gasket seals (so, no leaking), but isn't fully cured, what would happen if particles or even large amounts of the gasket broke off and was cruising around inside the motor? would it get filtered out in the oil filter?


sidenote: hail to hondabond, oh fearless leader :icon21: :icon30: :icon4: :icon30: :icon28:


You have to be careful during assembly not to get any extra sealant on the inner parts. If you spread the sealant with a finger on the surfaces then you can make sure that not too much will squish out the sides. Moderation is best here. If you do get particles in the oil supply they will get filtered out....but you can impare bearing function if there is a lot of it in there. As well...you can plug up the screen on the oil pick-up and potentially starve the motor of oil.


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