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Old 03-29-2006, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
mods please don't move this. I posted this in the brake section a few hours ago, but all I hear is crickets over there. Since most the knowledgeable members (motor wise) post in the FI section I thought I might get a faster response here.
Here's a good idea, why don't we post all off-topic messages in this forum, it will make them a lot easier to find and everybody will get quicker answers that way.

You should have posted it in the Wheels/Tire part of the forum, not Brakes/Suspension since a wheel bolt is part of the wheel. I'm not sure what the "motor wise" knowledge has to do with wheels?
Old 03-29-2006, 04:23 AM
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Overtightening your Lugs can also warp your Rotors too. Those large bolts, given enough torque can really mess up a lot of things. the Emergency Jack and Wrench are there for... Emergencies.. To get the doughnut on and get it to the tire shop.. Not for daily use.

Think about this, you spend X Thousands of dollars on Volks and Tires on a Pricy sports car, yet you won't spend $30 on the correct tool to put the wheels on? Makes no sense?

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Old 03-29-2006, 04:40 AM
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Gman...Ive replaced my studs twice . Putting on and taking off wheel spacers . Easy job..doesnt take long at all . The rears are the hard ones though . There is just one spot to get the new stud behind the rotor at a good angle to get it back in .
Old 03-29-2006, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
Here's a good idea, why don't we post all off-topic messages in this forum, it will make them a lot easier to find and everybody will get quicker answers that way.
I found that in the off topic section there are a bunch of morons that are just on this forum to talk chit about nothing that has to do with cars or modifications.

Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
You should have posted it in the Wheels/Tire part of the forum, not Brakes/Suspension since a wheel bolt is part of the wheel.
Well excusssssssssse me! I don't know chit about cars so when I took the wheel off to me it looked like the hub stud was part of the rotor. A rotor question would belong in the brake section. That's why I posted it in the brake section. Anyway the hub bolt is not part of the wheel. When you order new wheels and tires you do not new hub studs.

Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
I'm not sure what the "motor wise" knowledge has to do with wheels?
Well excussssse me again. I am sorry for not using the proper terminology. I should have said the guys in the FI section tend to be the most knowlegdable about mechanics in general.
Old 03-29-2006, 05:49 AM
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dude, never never never never never NEVER overtighten lug nuts! Sure it seems like a great idea, but I've warped rotors, drums, snapped lug studs, etc. it's NOT good. Always ALWAYS use a tq wrench!
Old 03-29-2006, 06:07 AM
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You mention the lugs not being the factory logs and that the wheel manufacturer provided lugs (did I understand that right?)
If the wheels came with lugs, it's a good possibility that the wheel flange is thicker or thinner than stock. Is it possible the bolts on the lugs your using could not get sufficient bite on the lugs, I'd think you ought to see at least a half inch of bolt in the clear for the nut to thread onto. On the other hand, if the lug is too long the bolt could bottom out on the lug without drawing the wheel up tight. Bottom line: if the wheels came with lugs, use them. Or at least go to the dealer and buy a replacement factory lug and check the length. The length is more important that the diameter (thread size).
Old 03-29-2006, 06:08 AM
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So how much tq? 85 or 95?

I'm going to check mine.
Old 03-29-2006, 06:19 AM
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Ive taken off and put on tires for 30 years and never have used a trq. wrench . Never have had wheel come off or loose . I tighten them up as much as you can with the tire off the ground...set it down only enough so it will not move...not all the Wt....then give them one more good snug down . Thats all you need
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Originally Posted by maximumsportZ
So how much tq? 85 or 95?

I'm going to check mine.

I always set my Wrench at 100lbs flat.
Old 03-29-2006, 06:24 AM
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get the nismo bolts, they're stronger
Old 03-29-2006, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by booger
Ive taken off and put on tires for 30 years and never have used a trq. wrench . Never have had wheel come off or loose . I tighten them up as much as you can with the tire off the ground...set it down only enough so it will not move...not all the Wt....then give them one more good snug down . Thats all you need

You can only tighten one so tight if the wheel spins.. I think the OP was standing on the end of his wrench..
Old 03-29-2006, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by maximumsportZ
So how much tq? 85 or 95?

I'm going to check mine.
LOL, you read my mind.
Old 03-29-2006, 06:52 AM
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ALWAYS use a torque wrench!!

Duraluminum Lugs, i set from 75-80 ft lbs.
normal stock lug nuts are 80-85 ft lbs.

also , put anti seize compound on the threads so they dont rust on-

a $150 torque wrench will save you the headaches down the line-
never use an impact wrench to put ON lugs either-

lesson learned!!
Old 03-29-2006, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sq40
You can only tighten one so tight if the wheel spins.. I think the OP was standing on the end of his wrench..
AFTER I get them tight with the wheel off the ground . Then I set it the wheel down...then one more good snug....not a tough job
Old 03-29-2006, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by booger
AFTER I get them tight with the wheel off the ground . Then I set it the wheel down...then one more good snug....not a tough job
this is how I tightened my as well.
Old 03-29-2006, 08:53 AM
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Invest in a Tq wrench! And after you remove the wheel and Tq it, you need to check them 100 miles after too! You should check them before any track event too!
Do you check your oil every other gas fill up? How about bleeding the brakes, or changing the brake fluid once a year? ...

There is more to car maint. than just changing your oil every 3000 miles.
Old 03-29-2006, 08:54 AM
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always retorque after a few hundred miles, sometimes(in your case) lugs work loose. they may feel tight but sometimes they arent. you are lucky man.
Old 03-29-2006, 09:26 AM
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From the manual

Tightening Torque
Wheel nut 98.1 - 127 N·m (10 - 12 kg-m, 73 - 93 ft-lb)

Chris
Old 03-29-2006, 09:32 AM
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Damn bro just saw this.....going 140mph like that...you are one lucky man...Can you imagine what would happen at 140mhp if that thing came off..??? Glad you caught it man..
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