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350zDCalb Apr 29, 2006 05:09 PM

Just thought I'd let you all know...BuiltZMotors longblock- Ready to go!!!
 
We are finally getting caught up with the extreme demand!!!

By the end of this next week, we will have a motor completely done, ready to ship out... If anybody would like a great opportunity to save TIME and get a great price on a quality builtZmotor, this is for you::icon38:

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=188090

Zivman Apr 30, 2006 03:46 AM

I just don't understand why you pair ED pistons with eagle rods? if the eagle rods are enough, the regular arias pistons will be enough.

theking Apr 30, 2006 05:17 AM

Even with the eagle rods I would want the ED pistons because of their bigger ringlands. They are bigger than the regular Arias pistons. After popping one ringland and it costing me alot in rebuild, a few hundred is cheap insurance.

Originally Posted by Zivman
I just don't understand why you pair ED pistons with eagle rods? if the eagle rods are enough, the regular arias pistons will be enough.


350zDCalb Apr 30, 2006 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by theking
Even with the eagle rods I would want the ED pistons because of their bigger ringlands. They are bigger than the regular Arias pistons. After popping one ringland and it costing me alot in rebuild, a few hundred is cheap insurance.

ZIVMAN:

The reason that we use Arias Extreme Duty pistons in all of our builds, is because they are the strongest piston on the market, hands down. They are complete overkill for anything under 600hp...but the only downside in these applications is the cost (so overkill is not a bad thing in this scenario).

After having to pull my motor and rebuild it because of breaking 3 piston ringlands, I was the first person to test the ED pistons...there was no audible difference compared to the standard Arias piston...and they can take MUCH more abuse!:eek:

Every built motor that I have heard about going down has been due to a piston failure...sure, the failure was likely due to detonation or heat issues, but the zero silicone forged aluminum design of the ED, as well as the thicker ringlands, makes them more durable, more forgiving when pushed to the limit:D .

As far as the eagle rods:
I will be willing to bet that nobody will break an eagle rod under 600whp! Probably safe to say even under 700-800hp...When we build a motor, we build it for specific power goals..the motor that we have for sale is perfect for someone planning on running 500-550hp or less...will it hold up for higher power levels, probably..but at this point, we recommend going with 12mm headstuds:eek: to provide better clamping force between the cylinder heads and the block. When you begin to go past the 550whp power level, many other things need to come into play:
More power will require:
larger injectors,
further upgrades to the fuel system (not necessary yet, but recommended-ie:AAM stage 2)
upgraded cams
headwork
if twin turbo (upgraded turbos)
much beefier clutch

the next level:
Darton Sleeves
14mm headstuds
oversized valves
upgraded valvestrain

We can do it all, we have some pretty sick motor build s going on right now:D

We'll keep you guys posted, feel free to pm me or contact us through our site for any questions:D
-TODD

baileyrx Apr 30, 2006 08:07 AM

i'll take one..

oh wait I already have!

350zDCalb Apr 30, 2006 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by baileyrx
i'll take one..

oh wait I already have!

Jim..pm me with a progress report..curious to see where you are at in the process:D

Sharif@Forged Apr 30, 2006 10:17 AM

I agree with Todd, Ziv. People going to find that the Eagle rods will support very high whp levels. Eagle claims 1200whp, which even if 2/3 of that is accurate, the rods will hold up wonderfully. There have been a few people that have damaged standard duty pistons in the 550-650whp range, so Arias ED pistons are the way to go, IMHO.

Zivman Apr 30, 2006 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
I agree with Todd, Ziv. People going to find that the Eagle rods will support very high whp levels. Eagle claims 1200whp, which even if 2/3 of that is accurate, the rods will hold up wonderfully. There have been a few people that have damaged standard duty pistons in the 550-650whp range, so Arias ED pistons are the way to go, IMHO.

I understand, but just that I think the board has the mentality that the eagles are a 'bargain rod' so they can't be that strong. I run them in my car so I for one, don't buy into that mentality.

taurran Apr 30, 2006 02:35 PM

Good to hear. Eagle all the way for me, when the time comes...

JoeDirtPharmD Apr 30, 2006 06:01 PM

I wouldn't normally finance a mod, but if you guys HAD financing....

LOL!

AmyCroft Apr 30, 2006 06:20 PM

Actually JoeDirt - You might not joke.
 

Originally Posted by JoeDirtPharmD
I wouldn't normally finance a mod, but if you guys HAD financing....

LOL!

The powers to be, might do well with a "Finance House" 100% upfront and a few points extra profit. Couldn't hurt the seller, might be a burden for the Adicted.

Cheers Amy :) - :)

350zDCalb Apr 30, 2006 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by JoeDirtPharmD
I wouldn't normally finance a mod, but if you guys HAD financing....

LOL!

we take credit cards via paypal:D

JoeDirtPharmD May 1, 2006 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by AmyCroft
The powers to be, might do well with a "Finance House" 100% upfront and a few points extra profit. Couldn't hurt the seller, might be a burden for the Adicted.

Cheers Amy :) - :)

I think there's a local place here (Vivid Racing) that finances, but their reputation with the local Z community is garbage.



Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
we take credit cards via paypal:D

Ha! I've actually lost sleep over doing this, but I'm building a second house and closing is just weeks away, so I'm trying to be cautious about ramping up balance:limit ratio until I have keys in hand :)


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