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drifter23 06-08-2006 12:22 PM

Oil Cooler For Daily Driven Vortech...
 
Just wanted to get your opinion on oil coolers for a daily driven Vortech supercharged 350z. I want to know if, you guys/gals reccommend getting one if, I daily drive my car 100% of the time to work. My car is getting the complete Vortech kit with oil, boost, and wide band A/F. And will be tuned for daily driving which will probably be 7-8 PSI of boost. Any input and knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

sentry65 06-08-2006 12:42 PM

I don't think it'd hurt - especially in CA where it's never super cold

I'd like to get one on my car too

nateg35 06-08-2006 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by drifter23
Just wanted to get your opinion on oil coolers for a daily driven Vortech supercharged 350z. I want to know if, you guys/gals reccommend getting one if, I daily drive my car 100% of the time to work. My car is getting the complete Vortech kit with oil, boost, and wide band A/F. And will be tuned for daily driving which will probably be 7-8 PSI of boost. Any input and knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

I was told by one of the Z specialist in the Bay that if your oil temp is around 180~200, you'll be fine, no need for oil cooler

sentry65 06-08-2006 01:42 PM

mine is 180-220 depending on how hot it is - just driving around with the AC on like normal

drifter23 06-08-2006 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by nateg35
I was told by one of the Z specialist in the Bay that if your oil temp is around 180~200, you'll be fine, no need for oil cooler

I guess I should just install the oil cooler later down the road. If I see my oil temps going higher than 200 I will get the Zcargarage oil cooler.

dimebagdolf 06-08-2006 01:57 PM

I'd do it.
Just as a saftey precaution to prolong the life of your motor. Rob's kit is pretty inexpensive and it works great. I tracked my car for the first time recently, and it ran fabulously the whole day w/ no temp probs.

drifter23 06-08-2006 02:37 PM


I'd do it.
Just as a saftey precaution to prolong the life of your motor. Rob's kit is pretty inexpensive and it works great. I tracked my car for the first time recently, and it ran fabulously the whole day w/ no temp probs.
Well since you have tested it out dimebagdolf and it has worked out great for you. I will get it installed with my Vortech.:D

sentry65 06-08-2006 02:47 PM

I wish Z car garage would sell a sort of generic oil cooler or a base kit like what they've been installing on all their Z's with vortechs but they only do custom jobs to ensure everything is right.

At this point I'm contemplating just getting the stillen kit, calling it a day and making the damn thing fit somewhere on the passenger side of the intercooler

I kinda wonder if I'll end up pulling my hair out trying to build my own kit piece by piece



dimebagdolf, do you have any direct air flowing to the oil cooler? you're using the stock bumper right?

nateg35 06-08-2006 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by dimebagdolf
I'd do it.
Just as a saftey precaution to prolong the life of your motor. Rob's kit is pretty inexpensive and it works great. I tracked my car for the first time recently, and it ran fabulously the whole day w/ no temp probs.

May I ask how much $$ total did Rob charge you...pm me if you want...thanks in advance
Nate

Eagle1 06-08-2006 04:34 PM

A Setrab type oil cooler is a good idea for a California car, and another very inexpensive mod is an oil pan spacer or extended capacity oil pan. The additional volume of oil will help to absorb more of that heat.

You can also improve your cooling by putting in to your radiator one bottle of Redline Water Wetter, which assists in the efficiency of your water to radiator heat exchange by improving contact with the radiator surface.

The next step up would be to go with a three core all aluminum radiator, which will hold more coolant and also exchange heat to the air better.

Then, and this would be extreme for most folks, would be to go to an Amsoil BMK-13 bypass filter, which will improve heat management by adding about three quarts of oil, as well as filtering out particulates over one micron in size (particulates attract and retain heat, and typical high flow filters only take out bits greater than 30 microns).

You can also use some thermal barrier and thermal dispersant coatings in the appropriate places to address heat, and of course a vented hood can help as well.

But I would think first off the cheap solution is to try the water wetter in the coolant mix, see how that works and only if you are having temp issues after that, go to the oil cooler, and possibly the oil pan/spacer. The water wetter should improve your cooling efficiency by 10% or more.

AmateuRN 06-08-2006 07:53 PM

I thought having the oil TOO cool would hurt more then help? I've also read that around 200-220 is a pretty descent temp. As long as you keep up with regular maintance it should be fine? I mean when does oil start to really break down? 400F?

sentry65 06-08-2006 08:28 PM

yeah I haven't flogged the piss out of my car yet cause it's not running at 100% yet, but I can easily hit 220 pretty quick - haven't ever gone above that though with occasional WOT runs

something I do when I drive alone is roughly 2-4 minutes before I finish driving, I run the heater on full blast and go easy on it if it's convenient and that'll usually drop the temp 5-10 degrees by the time I park and shut it off

dimebagdolf 06-09-2006 06:01 AM

dimebagdolf, do you have any direct air flowing to the oil cooler? you're using the stock bumper right?[/QUOTE]

Sentry,

Yes, the oil cooler sits in the front right next to the intercooler.

I've tried to talk to Rob about some of the things he's fabricated, but as mentioned in this string, he only will sell w/ custom jobs to make sure everything is done right. He's very particular about everything he does (which is great). But sucks for people that want his stuff and are not in the area.

Rob gave me a pretty good deal on the kit/install because I did everything at once. I don't think his quote for an install that is not done at the time of the full F/I install would be comporable.

Hope that helps!

sentry65 06-09-2006 07:15 AM

what are the rough dimensions of his oil cooler? I'm trying to figure out if it's a horizontal rectangle that's been turned 90 degrees or what size it is. If you're ever able to get a picture of how it looks installed that might help some of us out. Do you know what brand the actual oil cooler is?

dimebagdolf 06-09-2006 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by sentry65
what are the rough dimensions of his oil cooler? I'm trying to figure out if it's a horizontal rectangle that's been turned 90 degrees or what size it is. If you're ever able to get a picture of how it looks installed that might help some of us out. Do you know what brand the actual oil cooler is?

NP

I'll snap a pic over the weekend.

It's kind of a little square.

Not sure if he's OEM'ing it or he actually had something fabricated for the shop.

I'll post a pic over the weekend.

sentry65 06-09-2006 11:41 AM

hey thanks man

sentry65 06-09-2006 08:21 PM

just thought of an idea,

what if instead of having 1 big oil cooler, you had two smaller ones?

you could have two small square oil coolers on each side of the intercooler and connect them together in a chain?

what do you guys think?

acg 06-09-2006 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by sentry65
just thought of an idea,

what if instead of having 1 big oil cooler, you had two smaller ones?

you could have two small square oil coolers on each side of the intercooler and connect them together in a chain?

what do you guys think?

sentry check out this thread on G35driver

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101358

he replaced all 3 oil coolers and has the list of parts from the site he got them from.

dimebagdolf 06-11-2006 11:47 AM

Okay Fellas,

I got the pics, but the resolution is too high.

How can I shrink them so that you guys can blow them up?


I know this sounds retarted, but I've never done it before.


Thx


Adolfo

drifter23 06-11-2006 12:32 PM

Resize the image in adobe or one of your picture programs in windows.


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