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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
I think people sometimes forget how fun, just 400whp/400ft/lbs is....a TRUE 400whp.
Very true, but from reading the forum it is very easy to get locked in the horsepower race and try to use any means necessary to get those #'s. It can lead to some VERY entertaining threads (Alberto, you should know what i am referring to).

But jokes aside, on LS2's the 400+whp is very much achievable on an NA motor with cams, headwork, full exhaust and tune...

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
I think people sometimes forget how fun, just 400whp/400ft/lbs is....a TRUE 400whp.
+1 If my motor wouldnt have blown, I would have never gone for build/more power, it was faster than 90% of cars I did/would ever come across
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
+1 If my motor wouldnt have blown, I would have never gone for build/more power, it was faster than 90% of cars I did/would ever come across
Exactly, that Greddy TT lambo orange widebody 350Z that we, just did 403whp on our dyno, and he consistently dusts every car he races on the freeway. He is having trouble with this pesky Viper, but thats about the only thing he hasnt beated convincingly.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Yea it was good talking to you, Sharif. I thought for sure I was out of this game. But like any huge car guy, I just can't let the Z get the best of me like it has....I must show it who's boss

As for the JWT...I don't know yet. I'm not completely sold at this point; need to do more homework. I've pretty much skipped all of the JWT threads up to this point, so I have lots of research to do.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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Goodluck.

Let us know if we can help.

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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The problem with going JWT is, at least for me, is that the kit + CJM fuel system plus RC650 injectors + UTEC is is roughly $9500.

I can get the APS TT tuner kit + APS Twin pump fuel system that includes larger injectors + UTEC for only $9300, and have the potential for more power. As an added bonus, I get a nicer oil pan.

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
The problem with going JWT is, at least for me, is that the kit + CJM fuel system plus RC650 injectors + UTEC is is roughly $9500.

I can get the APS TT tuner kit + APS Twin pump fuel system that includes larger injectors + UTEC for only $9300, and have the potential for more power. As an added bonus, I get a nicer oil pan.

The more you do to your car the more problems you will encounter. Keep it simple. I agree with the JWT kit on a stock engine. I wouldn't even change the exhaust..I'd leave everything stock and be happy with my 400+ crank hp and tq
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by zman1910
The more you do to your car the more problems you will encounter. Keep it simple. I agree with the JWT kit on a stock engine. I wouldn't even change the exhaust..I'd leave everything stock and be happy with my 400+ crank hp and tq
I don't exactly trust my stock engine. I bought it used. I could just see it blowing up on the dyno or something. Or worse, on the way to drop it off

Not only that, but the fact that I'm having ONE shop do everything, as opposed to 3. If something goes wrong, it's on the shop, not me this time. Cause I ain't touchin it!
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chimmike
ahh that makes sense I'm thinkin the regular studs are more than enough for an unsleeved block, but my insurance will be the HKS headgaskets.

You might be interested in the JWT 700 kit, have Performane Motorsport build it and install that kit, which will give you the headroom you want, but the great power as well.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
I don't exactly trust my stock engine. I bought it used. I could just see it blowing up on the dyno or something. Or worse, on the way to drop it off

Not only that, but the fact that I'm having ONE shop do everything, as opposed to 3. If something goes wrong, it's on the shop, not me this time. Cause I ain't touchin it!

Why don't you do this:

1) Set a target power level.
2) Make a list of cars you're considering.
3) Make a shopping list of upgrades for each one.
4) Get the $$ needed to achieve the power goal with each one (including $$ needed to switch to a different car)
5) See if it is worth it for you to keep the Z or get something else?

Just try to be logical, you're attached to the Z, but you will re-attach to the new car very quickly.
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Thanks for the call today...didnt even realize you had this thread going. Take your time, and when you are ready...we'll be here.

My vote is still for a stock motor, and basic JWT TT kit. Very simple, safe, and elegant setup for mild boost, without the extra expense and time with engine building.

I think people sometimes forget how fun, just 400whp/400ft/lbs is....a TRUE 400whp.
I think I would take TTZ with modest 400 WHP over a C6... My friends C6 still drives like an american car. Steering Slop, floats into a turn, pedal feel not crisp, oversized steering wheel, etc... Still loves to burn oil... Both cars have a totally different driving experience. No one seems to talk about that... However; on the C6 I do like the location of the shifter and the overall looks...
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Originally Posted by Oleg
Why don't you do this:

1) Set a target power level.
2) Make a list of cars you're considering.
3) Make a shopping list of upgrades for each one.
4) Get the $$ needed to achieve the power goal with each one (including $$ needed to switch to a different car)
5) See if it is worth it for you to keep the Z or get something else?

Just try to be logical, you're attached to the Z, but you will re-attach to the new car very quickly.
That is all very good advice. I've not yet even set a serious power goal (remember, up until the other day, I wanted a totally different car ).

In the 35k to 40k price range, there really isn't a sports car that I like other than a loaded Z. Sure I could afford an '05 C6, but if I'm getting something new, I'm getting something NEW, ya know?
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1G-350Z
I think I would take TTZ with modest 400 WHP over a C6...
Because that is what you have
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
That is all very good advice. I've not yet even set a serious power goal (remember, up until the other day, I wanted a totally different car ).

In the 35k to 40k price range, there really isn't a sports car that I like other than a loaded Z. Sure I could afford an '05 C6, but if I'm getting something new, I'm getting something NEW, ya know?

You can get a brand new base c6 for ~40k. It comes with everything you'd need
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
That is all very good advice. I've not yet even set a serious power goal (remember, up until the other day, I wanted a totally different car ).

In the 35k to 40k price range, there really isn't a sports car that I like other than a loaded Z. Sure I could afford an '05 C6, but if I'm getting something new, I'm getting something NEW, ya know?

A well maintained stock used one will only be different in a sence that someone took the initial GM depriciation plunge. Since you'll be modding it anyway the factory warranty should not be something to consider...
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by zman1910
You can get a brand new base c6 for ~40k. It comes with everything you'd need
I'd want the Z51 package though. The TMV on Edmunds is like 46k! Invoice is only a little over 41k, so there's room to negotiate.

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 1G-350Z
I think I would take TTZ with modest 400 WHP over a C6... My friends C6 still drives like an american car. Steering Slop, floats into a turn, pedal feel not crisp, oversized steering wheel, etc... Still loves to burn oil... Both cars have a totally different driving experience. No one seems to talk about that... However; on the C6 I do like the location of the shifter and the overall looks...
The handling/handling feel that you are referrining can be addressed through aftermarket components.
And you can just get a bigger oil pan and keep tabs on your oil levels. As long as you change frequently enough, this should be an issue either.
And personnaly, I would rather burn a bit of oil over time, then lose my oil all at once through a hole in a block...
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by zman1910
Because that is what you have
I guess... I went to the Chevy dealer before I went FI for the same reason... Just to sit in the car before I took the plunge... I have no regrets. I personally don't care for any domestic cars... Though the C6 is obviously a great choice.
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Failsafe: You mentioned going to several shops to have your car worked on. What shops did you take your car to, if you don't mind me asking since you live close to my home state. I have plans on going to Texas for my TT install, so I'd like to know where to go and who to stay away from.
I could go back and do a search on your threads, but this would be much quicker. Thanks.

Oh, btw if I were you...stick to the Z. C6's are nice, but like all Corvettes you see them everywhere.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BootieMAN
Oh, btw if I were you...stick to the Z. C6's are nice, but like all Corvettes you see them everywhere.
So are Z's...
At least where I live.
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