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350zDCalb Jun 15, 2007 09:49 AM

6mt 3rd gear not worky- here's why!
 
well, 2 trannys later, after breaking 3rd gear both times (when 3rd gear engaged engine revs freely), we decided to pull one apart and see if we could spot the issue...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...d/IMG_7311.jpg

as we pulled the tranny apart, we saw specs of copper colored metal, small ammount, in the case...hmmm....:icon20:

edit: this is the 3rd counter gear, it has split apart....:icon20:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...d/IMG_7317.jpg

now see how it has broken free from the larger gear ring, these are designed to be one solid piece, so when the larger ring is engaged with the coupling sleeve, 3rd gear is not!!!:eek:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ountergear.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...d/IMG_7316.jpg


now I'm very curious as to the puerto rico welding fix?!?!?!?..where do you weld, the seam that "could" be welded would likely get in the way of where the gears mate on each shaft...someone please enlighten me:D

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...d/IMG_7319.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...d/IMG_7320.jpg
before you ask, no i didnt weld it....just posing

Sharif@Forged Jun 15, 2007 09:56 AM

This is the funniest thread ever...hehe...nice work.

I1DER Jun 15, 2007 10:02 AM

The weld alone won't hold. You have to super-glue it first.

eagletanggreen Jun 15, 2007 10:03 AM

Dude just weld it! Do it!

Kenk2 Jun 15, 2007 10:20 AM

I would have to assume you are NOT going to use the wire feed.. You are going to have to take another approach.. ;)

Sharif@Forged Jun 15, 2007 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Kenk2
I would have to assume you are NOT going to use the wire feed.. You are going to have to take another approach.. ;)

+1, I am pretty sure Todd knows that his small mig welder has zero chances of properly welding a thick gearset. :)

Kenk2 Jun 15, 2007 10:39 AM

http://my350z.thepronhost.com/pics/toddqb6.png

IIQuickSilverII Jun 15, 2007 10:39 AM


:icon18: :icon18: :icon18: :icon18: :icon18: :icon18: :icon18:

Kenk2 Jun 15, 2007 10:43 AM

Sorry Todd, Jorge made the pic, I posted it.. :D

IIQuickSilverII Jun 15, 2007 10:45 AM

got mad mspaint skillz!!!!!! lol


just jk T lol

Alberto Jun 15, 2007 10:50 AM

I should take my tranny apart and see whats up, my 3rd gear seemed to explode when I "gently" put it in at the track:)

eagletanggreen Jun 15, 2007 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Alberto
I should take my tranny apart and see whats up, my 3rd gear seemed to explode when I "gently" put it in at the track:)


Yeah! "gently". :crutches:

IIQuickSilverII Jun 15, 2007 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Yeah! "gently". :crutches:


:icon18:

yah...nothin he does with his transmision is "gently"

Alberto Jun 15, 2007 12:04 PM

LMAO @ that smiley Luie, never seen that one:icon17: Next week at work I'll take mine apart and post pics. Todd-how hard is it to get to/see 3rd gears synchro? Ive never cracked open a tranny before...

turismo Jun 15, 2007 01:20 PM

Can we do a group buy on this?

350zDCalb Jun 15, 2007 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Alberto
LMAO @ that smiley Luie, never seen that one:icon17: Next week at work I'll take mine apart and post pics. Todd-how hard is it to get to/see 3rd gears synchro? Ive never cracked open a tranny before...


i have taken apart transfer cases on my rock crawler before, so i was a bit prepared, wasnt that bad all things considered... just need some puinches, snap ring pliers, and to actually get the two gear shafts seperated, you will need a puller...

YOU CAN DO IT!

failsafe306 Jun 15, 2007 01:56 PM

Not sure if this helps or not....
 
https://my350z.com/forum/showpost.ph...5&postcount=45

BriGuyMax Jun 15, 2007 02:05 PM

;)

It's the engagement gear that breaks off of the main gear. This is going to be really hard to fix without a fully custom gear that has the engagement gear laser welded onto it.

350zDCalb Jun 15, 2007 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by turismo
Can we do a group buy on this?


just got off the phone with nissan

3rd gear $160

UPDATE:
I studied the diagrams and compared them to what is sitting on my workbench... the part that broke is the "3rd counter gear"

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ountergear.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...d/IMG_7316.jpg


Now that is a great illustration!
:D :D :D

maybe rebuilding with a new counter gear that has been cryoed and prayed over by monks???

350zDCalb Jun 15, 2007 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
+1, I am pretty sure Todd knows that his small mig welder has zero chances of properly welding a thick gearset. :)


yah, i have some JB weld...:icon18:


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