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str8dum1 02-22-2011 04:29 PM

twin 66mm turbos thru a TH400 tranny would make any platform super fast :) The motec opens alot of doors in terms of making custom parts work. very cool

you can tell from that last video thats not a streetable car.

If Vlad SP built sedan ever had real passes, it would probably be right up there as well.

need4boostz 02-22-2011 04:43 PM

keep in mind, when the car ran 8.33 it was still using the factory manifold, i dont even think it was running with a spacer either. in the video the hood is factory.

this is the pic of other hood to make room for the larger manifold.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...z/100_2410.jpg

heres some other early videos
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3hree5ive0ero 02-22-2011 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Brandon@VTR (Post 8980358)
The fact is, the parts that were only proprietary were the pistons and rings so we cant disclose that, however, the ferrea valves, the carrillo rods , are off the shelf items and anyone can buy them. The compression ratio was 8.5:1. We used a factory head gasket and 1/2 inch stud that you can get from VTR. The porting was done by Vinny and I think he said when he was building the engine he was wearing blue jeans, blue underwear and a pair of nike sneakers, and I'm sure in his traditional sweat shirt LOL ;)

Do you need more specifics? Really what specifics do you want to know... valve clearance, piston to wall clearance, rod bearing clearance, main bearing clearance, ring end gap, crank journal main and rod size... I mean these are all things that Vinny includes in every engine and if I posted them on the forums my competitors would have a field day. I'm sorry but I think everyone realizes theres only so much he can disclose. I hope the members can understand and respect that.

:ugh: Pics of the blue clothing and sweatshirt or it didn't happen.

I can understand that you may not want to disclose everything, but I was mainly thinking about a parts list. And how about a dyno sheet?


And what's going on with the new set up (just something basic on what you guys are planning to roll out to the strip)?

AngelsVQ 02-22-2011 09:44 PM

sick

Blueknight74 02-23-2011 03:55 AM

Very nice build
 
That was a good read good job guys :thumbup:. It gave me even more confidence that I took my car to the right shop. I can’t wait to get her back :icon21: Brandon do you have any more pix to upload?

Brandon@VTR 02-23-2011 10:34 AM

  • full unibody car/not a tube chassis? full unibody (no gut)
  • stock displacement or bored/stroked? stock displacement
  • sleeved or unsleeved motor? sleeved
  • turbo setup used (you said a custom twin T66 turbo setup)
  • how many PSI of boost? 38psi
  • type of transmission (you said a TH400)
  • type of engine management (you said Motec)
  • type of tires used (you said BF Goodrich drag radials)
  • type of fuel used (you said VP116)
  • a time slip and/or video for proof (you have an awesome vid of the run)
  • 60' time?


Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0 (Post 8980463)
:spot: Thanks for creating this thread and telling us more about this car!:thumbup:


LOL I don't think the detailed specs that 3hree5ive0ero was referring to were anything THAT specific.:bowrofl:




Here's the kind of things the moderators need to know to include this car in the top 25 drag list (which are also some of the things many of us are curious about):
  • full unibody car/not a tube chassis? full unibody (no gut)
  • stock displacement or bored/stroked? stock displacement
  • sleeved or unsleeved motor? sleeved
  • turbo setup used (you said a custom twin T66 turbo setup)
  • how many PSI of boost? 38psi
  • type of transmission (you said a TH400)
  • type of engine management (you said Motec)
  • type of tires used (you said BF Goodrich drag radials)
  • type of fuel used (you said VP116)
  • a time slip and/or video for proof (you have an awesome vid of the run)
  • 60' time?
As you can see Brandon, there are only a few things on that list that haven't been clarified already. ;)


Do you have some pics you could post here? Would LOVE to see a good engine bay pic or two of that custom twin turbo setup!:D

Also... In the portion of the Drag Source article that you posted in your other thread... I noticed that it said this motor had Nismo cams.:icon9: Would also LOVE to see a dyno sheet!!! Does Vinny still have a dyno sheet that you could post up?


Alberto 02-23-2011 10:37 AM

Stock rear diff?

Suspension?

Funny you guys were wrecking a$$ way long ago, while these other shops are still trying to catch up.

Too bad you guys didnt have more of a presence on these forums as you did all this, you would have taken lots of $$$ from other shops. Even though you have achievements, many will not release the left nut of the shops they currently and will forever cling to.

CRIDDA 02-23-2011 11:07 AM

Lets get VTR on that top 25 drag page:thumbup:

CRIDDA 02-23-2011 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Alberto (Post 8982481)
Stock rear diff?

Suspension?

Funny you guys were wrecking a$$ way long ago, while these other shops are still trying to catch up.

Too bad you guys didnt have more of a presence on these forums as you did all this, you would have taken lots of $$$ from other shops. Even though you have achievements, many will not release the left nut of the shops they currently and will forever cling to.

:werd:

str8dum1 02-23-2011 11:52 AM

no one has really tried to catch up.... IP and SP are the only other 2 shops that have even bothered to put a real auto on these cars.

Where is this VTR car now?

Brandon@VTR 02-23-2011 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Alberto (Post 8982481)
Stock rear diff?

Suspension?

Funny you guys were wrecking a$$ way long ago, while these other shops are still trying to catch up.

Too bad you guys didnt have more of a presence on these forums as you did all this, you would have taken lots of $$$ from other shops. Even though you have achievements, many will not release the left nut of the shops they currently and will forever cling to.

It had a Nismo LSD and suspension was just a coilover, believe they were Teins.

Brandon@VTR 02-23-2011 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by str8dum1 (Post 8982652)
no one has really tried to catch up.... IP and SP are the only other 2 shops that have even bothered to put a real auto on these cars.

Where is this VTR car now?

Not sure where the car sits. As far as we know, the car never ran when Vinny left.

OldManZ350 02-23-2011 12:33 PM

What Cams in this Car?


Originally Posted by need4boostz (Post 8980709)
keep in mind, when the car ran 8.33 it was still using the factory manifold, i dont even think it was running with a spacer either. in the video the hood is factory.

this is the pic of other hood to make room for the larger manifold.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...z/100_2410.jpg

heres some other early videos
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thom000001 02-23-2011 12:56 PM

/\/\
I think SP and Charles showed that cams mean less than the intake mani on the VQ. By that I mean, SP was running little BC Stage 2 cams but with a CJM intake and ported heads of course. And they were flowing to higher RPM's than most others dare (that and a billet girdle help too).
I know my stock head, bc stage 3, 60mm turbos and stock intake mani couldn't breath
well, above 7300rpm......

RudeG_v2.0 02-23-2011 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Alberto (Post 8982481)
Stock rear diff?

Suspension?

Funny you guys were wrecking a$$ way long ago, while these other shops are still trying to catch up.

Too bad you guys didnt have more of a presence on these forums as you did all this, you would have taken lots of $$$ from other shops. Even though you have achievements, many will not release the left nut of the shops they currently and will forever cling to.

:werd: Ain't that THE TRUTH. I don't think those other shops would have nearly as many fanboys today if VTR had been more active on my350z and more involved with the VQ community on a national level.

But I'm glad they're here now! I look forward to seeing VTR provide some excitement and positive change to this site.:)

RudeG_v2.0 02-23-2011 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Brandon@VTR (Post 8982676)
It had a Nismo LSD and suspension was just a coilover, believe they were Teins.

Wow... that's impressive considering that the suspension wasn't heavily modified. Was it the stock 3.5 gear in the rear?

Vas_Z33 02-23-2011 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0 (Post 8982991)
:werd: Ain't that THE TRUTH. I don't think those other shops would have nearly as many fanboys today if VTR had been more active on my350z and more involved with the VQ community on a national level.

But I'm glad they're here now! I look forward to seeing VTR provide some excitement and positive change to this site.:)

agreed. I have spoken to Vinny a while back when I was up there doing my clutch, about joining the forums... i guess he just wasnt up for the drama that goes on here.. and i dont blame him.. regardless he was packed to his head building Z & Gs and wasnt even advertising on here... I can only imagine how much more business he could of made being here..

Vinny has his own techniques and does his own thing when it comes to engines :thumbup: Looking forward to more!!

Resmarted 02-23-2011 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Alberto (Post 8982481)
Stock rear diff?

Funny you guys were wrecking a$$ way long ago, while these other shops are still trying to catch up.

Too bad you guys didnt have more of a presence on these forums as you did all this, you would have taken lots of $$$ from other shops. Even though you have achievements, many will not release the left nut of the shops they currently and will forever cling to.

Couldn't have said it any better.
On a tangent:
Does VTR have problems with sleeved blocks? I noticed you guys have sleeved blocks for sale online... If you guys have success with and can give pointers to keeping the cylinders from sliding you could make a serious impact in our community as well as some serious $$$. Sh*t, if you guys had reliable sleeved blocks, i'd be saving up for a true build with your block...

Alberto 02-24-2011 05:02 AM

From what Ive heard thru customers they dont seem to have issues with them, but no offense, I trust nobody that says that in regards to this platform.

Perhaps they have the recipe for success, of course youd have to go there to have it on your car, I dont blame them not wanting to share anything with the shops on here for obvious reasons.

IntenseSales 02-24-2011 08:34 AM

Nice thread, sick F*cking car!


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