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FastIntentions Dec 30, 2008 04:34 PM

January 1st 2009 HFC'S Illegal for sale in California!!!
 
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<!-- google_ad_section_start -->As of January 1st 2009 all OBDI catalytic converters will be illegal for sale in the state of California. Period, no if ands or buts, no loop holes.

Bottom line, since magnaflow/carsound is located in California they will not be able to sell the cats to anyone in California. None of their dealers will be able to sell to you if you are in California. We (Fast Intentions) will not be able to sell to you if you are in the state of California. I know it is short notice but if you are in California, you have one day to buy these cats. After that good luck.

The good news is the other 49 states in this country do not fall under this law. This is coming down from B.A.R.(Business of Automotive Repair) and CARB.(California Air Resource Board)

I just thought I should put this little bit of information out there for all of you. As we are not pleased about this either, we don't have any choice but to comply with it. If anyone has any questions please do not hesitate to ask...

Thank you, Tony
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OldDirty Z33 Dec 30, 2008 04:50 PM

OMFG. Sucks to live in california then


Ohh wait I do :( Thats a load of BS! When there is a will theres a way! What about TP?

Edit: I think thats misinformed because what about off road racing? You still would be able to buy it for "off road use only" I think you mean They cannot be on a car that is driven on the streets

Changvi Dec 30, 2008 05:16 PM

This is some BS! Thats why I hate California laws....

red_magic2000 Dec 31, 2008 07:21 AM

California sucks!!!Overrated..The best thing is just have an out of state buddy ship you the parts or just buy online.

savvy Dec 31, 2008 07:31 AM

wow that blows.

singh Dec 31, 2008 08:45 AM

Sucks for you guys. Haha!

jdmteg2nv Dec 31, 2008 10:06 AM

HAHA no emissions down here in Florida....j.k. but that really sux..I wonder if you can still buy them off of ebay and have them shipped to you

terrasmak Dec 31, 2008 11:18 AM

Sell them to someone out of Cali them ship them to cali under a non business name.

SniperHunter Dec 31, 2008 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by terrasmak (Post 6747191)
Sell them to someone out of Cali them ship them to cali under a non business name.

Yeah. Looks like people out of CA will have to ask for some favors from out of state folks.

bboypuertoroc Dec 31, 2008 11:41 AM

Sucks to be in Cali.

teh215 Dec 31, 2008 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by FastIntentions (Post 6744402)
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<!-- google_ad_section_start -->As of January 1st 2009 all OBDI catalytic converters will be illegal for sale in the state of California. Period, no if ands or buts, no loop holes.

<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

I'm not in CA but, I am curious if cars that already have them installed would have to remove them.

OldDirty Z33 Dec 31, 2008 12:14 PM

All lies

iStan Dec 31, 2008 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by terrasmak (Post 6747191)
Sell them to someone out of Cali them ship them to cali under a non business name.

Looks like we'll be getting into the Shipping business.

diwun67 Dec 31, 2008 12:34 PM

Wow. Why is Cali so anti-car? Must be all the hippy liberals out there :rolleyes: Time to just gut your factory cats :D

Sensi09 Dec 31, 2008 12:35 PM

Can't you sell HFCs and label them for track use only?

If it's illegal to sell, then how are test pipes sold in cali and everything else not designated for "street" use.

OldDirty Z33 Dec 31, 2008 01:06 PM

^ thats what I said! Everyone seems to ignore my post lol. Who cares its impossible top say you cant sell HFC to Californians.

dyno Jan 1, 2009 04:02 PM

All Haters
 
California is the place to be, best weather.....women....cars

You wish you could live here

infiniteracing Jan 1, 2009 04:42 PM

I don't understand how OBDI cats covers HFC. These are two completely different things. As long as the Cats pass smog. They are legal. CA can't and won't put a regulation on a name. That is all "High-flow Cats" are, is a name. It's not like they went through he magnaflow catalog and said "that looks illegal". It is all based on emissions and smog tests.

And yes, any old HFC that won't pass the new standards can be sold for "off-road use only".

I'm not trying to say FastIntentions is trying to use a scare tactics for end of the year sales, but it does look like it was headed in that direction.

Besides OBDI and OBDII has to do with how the car reads its sensors, not how things are built. If a catalytic converter is built in such a way that does not throw emissions codes and passes the current smog standard, then it is legal.

OldDirty Z33 Jan 1, 2009 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by infiniteracing (Post 6750695)
I don't understand how OBDI cats covers HFC. These are two completely different things. As long as the Cats pass smog. They are legal. CA can't and won't put a regulation on a name. That is all "High-flow Cats" are, is a name. It's not like they went through he magnaflow catalog and said "that looks illegal". It is all based on emissions and smog tests.

And yes, any old HFC that won't pass the new standards can be sold for "off-road use only".

I'm not trying to say FastIntentions is trying to use a scare tactics for end of the year sales, but it does look like it was headed in direction.

Besides OBDI and OBDII has to do with how the car reads it sensors, not how things are built. If a catalytic converter is built in such a way that does not throw emissions codes and passes the current smog standard, then it is legal.

lol +1

One_Quick_Z Jan 1, 2009 05:25 PM

Thats why Im glad I live in Illinois
Then Again Im running Test Pipes haha

DAN


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