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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Barnabas
Start you with an easy one

A man lives on the tenth floor of a building. Every morning he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building. In the evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the elevator or if its raining that day he goes back to his floor directly. Otherwise, he goes to the seventh floor and walks up three flights of stairs to his apartment.


Why?
i cheated, and the answer is really really dumb
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NNOCENT
i cheated, and the answer is really really dumb
like I said its a easy one
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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Do you want a concrete answer? If so it's not philosophy.
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Barnabas
Start you with an easy one

A man lives on the tenth floor of a building. Every morning he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building. In the evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the elevator or if its raining that day he goes back to his floor directly. Otherwise, he goes to the seventh floor and walks up three flights of stairs to his apartment.


Why?
oh gosh... what are we in 2nd grade? Cuz the dude's too short to reach the button to the 10th floor. If someone else is in the elevator he'd ask the person to press the button for him. If it's raining he has an umbrella so he can use the umbrella to press the button. He goes to only the 7th floor cuz that's the highest he could reach. I think I heard that one when I was 4 and figured it out back then.
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:35 PM
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I know I'm not Mid-A, but I'm bored. Can I play?
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Time is only relevant to one self. Meaning you cannot apply the same qualitative "time" to more than one individual. You often hear people saying "OMG the day went by fast". That statement doesn't apply to another person. Okay... enough random thinking... back to coding
Actually, if time slowed down, then everything else would slow down, including your aging process. You can't move, function, and live "normally" at light speed. Remember that time is an independent variable. Everything you do at light speed will be at light speed, hence time spent doing the activity is greatly reduced (however long it would take to do at "normal speed" multiplied by the percentage that is our normal speed with respect to speed of light). See attached #1. If this doing-everything-normally-at-light-speed were possible, then many things change and the following applies.

Regardless of traveling speed, time is still the same as experienced by the person (the perceived 17 seconds at light speed is equal to the perceived 17 seconds at normal speed). That is, time is defined by specific units of measurement, such as seconds, minutes, etc as it relates to that specific speed.

So, using your example, the one traveling at light speed is still aging, yes? That suggests that time is continuing to move (as experienced by the light speed person) at the same rate as would be perceived and even measured as it would at normal speed. Thus, the person at light speed is still aged 30 years in his respective speed. However, keep in mind that time is a measurable and clearly defined concept at its respective speeds (i.e., measuring method is still the same), which means that his 30 years at light speed is still the same 30 years at normal speed (as it would be measured and experienced). What I'm saying is that you can't compare the time as measured and experienced by the two people without taking their relative speeds into consideration. See attached #2.

Anyway, all this has nothing to do with what I was originally intending on replying to, which is that time is applicable to everyone at their given speed (in everybody's case, speed is a equal constant). SENSE or PERCEPTION of time is only relevant and applicable to oneself. So, given that we're all traveling at the same speed, time is applicable to all of us exactly the same. Each individuals' perception of actual elapsed time is what cannot be applied to everybody else.
Originally Posted by Barnabas
one does everything outside and the other one does everything indoors, How do you account for sun wear? Since the Sun obviously will make someone appear to be older/ragged/tougher
Who is older who is younger?
Sun wear is just a weathering process and has nothing to do with age. Your appearance doesn't define your age, nor does it always perfectly correlate with age for every person (too many variables, inherent traits, etc). You might "look" (note that this is a subjective term) older than your age (defined by time, thus a measurable construct), but that doesn't mean your age is how your appearance is perceived to be in the eyes of others (again, this is subjective, thus immeasurable). Therefore, their age is still the same.

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What if the one outside did everything in life faster. Then he is he still younger?
This question must be addressed much like the above. That is, each hypothetical person's perception of time is irrelevant to the actual time, which is an independent construct that is infinite but clearly defined and also measurable (in both scenarios I spoke of in this post). Thus, their own subjective feeling or perception of time doesn't affect the actual time that will continue to continue.




Please correct me if I am wrong. I like things like this, so I don't mind being wrong as long as I learn something from it.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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SENSE or PERCEPTION of time is only relevant and applicable to oneself. So, given that we're all traveling at the same speed, time is applicable to all of us exactly the same. Each individuals' perception of actual elapsed time is what cannot be applied to everybody else.
That my friend answers it all!
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
I know I'm not Mid-A, but I'm bored. Can I play?

Actually, if time slowed down, then everything else would slow down, including your aging process. You can't move, function, and live "normally" at light speed. Remember that time is an independent variable. Everything you do at light speed will be at light speed, hence time spent doing the activity is greatly reduced (however long it would take to do at "normal speed" multiplied by the percentage that is our normal speed with respect to speed of light). See attached #1. If this doing-everything-normally-at-light-speed were possible, then many things change and the following applies.

Regardless of traveling speed, time is still the same as experienced by the person (the perceived 17 seconds at light speed is equal to the perceived 17 seconds at normal speed). That is, time is defined by specific units of measurement, such as seconds, minutes, etc as it relates to that specific speed.

So, using your example, the one traveling at light speed is still aging, yes? That suggests that time is continuing to move (as experienced by the light speed person) at the same rate as would be perceived and even measured as it would at normal speed. Thus, the person at light speed is still aged 30 years in his respective speed. However, keep in mind that time is a measurable and clearly defined concept at its respective speeds (i.e., measuring method is still the same), which means that his 30 years at light speed is still the same 30 years at normal speed (as it would be measured and experienced). What I'm saying is that you can't compare the time as measured and experienced by the two people without taking their relative speeds into consideration. See attached #2.

Anyway, all this has nothing to do with what I was originally intending on replying to, which is that time is applicable to everyone at their given speed (in everybody's case, speed is a equal constant). SENSE or PERCEPTION of time is only relevant and applicable to oneself. So, given that we're all traveling at the same speed, time is applicable to all of us exactly the same. Each individuals' perception of actual elapsed time is what cannot be applied to everybody else.

Sun wear is just a weathering process and has nothing to do with age. Your appearance doesn't define your age, nor does it always perfectly correlate with age for every person (too many variables, inherent traits, etc). You might "look" (note that this is a subjective term) older than your age (defined by time, thus a measurable construct), but that doesn't mean your age is how your appearance is perceived to be in the eyes of others (again, this is subjective, thus immeasurable). Therefore, their age is still the same.


This question must be addressed much like the above. That is, each hypothetical person's perception of time is irrelevant to the actual time, which is an independent construct that is infinite but clearly defined and also measurable (in both scenarios I spoke of in this post). Thus, their own subjective feeling or perception of time doesn't affect the actual time that will continue to continue.



Please correct me if I am wrong. I like things like this, so I don't mind being wrong as long as I learn something from it.
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