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01-10-2007, 06:47 AM
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Pix look good but get yourself a light meter (or use the one in the camera). All pix from an XTI? Some of them look a bit under exposed and they are very noisey, namely the ones with the white Z on the sand, Its also a bit oof. Remember rule of thirds and practice, practice practice. What lenses do you have? Dont forget your white balance also. Use the appropriate WB for the condition. ie- if its sunny out use the sunny balance, if theres overcast use the cloudy balance...and if your shooting at night use the tungston (sp) good luck
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01-10-2007, 06:58 AM
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heres an example. Not an ideal place for a shot but i was experimenting a new lens. I took these pix last week sometime. Notice the iso speed on the exif.
exif-
File size: 347980 bytes
File date: 2006:12:28 06:32:05
Camera make: Canon
Camera model: Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XT
Date/Time: 2006:12:27 17:34:59
Resolution: 800 x 453
Flash used: No
Focal length: 18.0mm (35mm equivalent: 29mm)
CCD width: 22.20mm
Exposure time: 30.000 s
Aperture: f/22.0
ISO equiv.: 800
Whitebalance: Auto
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Auto bracketing
File size: 476791 bytes
File date: 2006:12:28 17:10:24
Camera make: Canon
Camera model: Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XT
Date/Time: 2006:12:28 18:49:42
Resolution: 799 x 630
Flash used: No
Focal length: 50.0mm (35mm equivalent: 100mm)
CCD width: 18.06mm
Exposure time: 30.000 s
Aperture: f/10.0
ISO equiv.: 100
Whitebalance: Custom
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Auto bracketing
exif-
File size: 347980 bytes
File date: 2006:12:28 06:32:05
Camera make: Canon
Camera model: Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XT
Date/Time: 2006:12:27 17:34:59
Resolution: 800 x 453
Flash used: No
Focal length: 18.0mm (35mm equivalent: 29mm)
CCD width: 22.20mm
Exposure time: 30.000 s
Aperture: f/22.0
ISO equiv.: 800
Whitebalance: Auto
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Auto bracketing
File size: 476791 bytes
File date: 2006:12:28 17:10:24
Camera make: Canon
Camera model: Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XT
Date/Time: 2006:12:28 18:49:42
Resolution: 799 x 630
Flash used: No
Focal length: 50.0mm (35mm equivalent: 100mm)
CCD width: 18.06mm
Exposure time: 30.000 s
Aperture: f/10.0
ISO equiv.: 100
Whitebalance: Custom
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Auto bracketing
01-10-2007, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mndthegap1
Pix look good but get yourself a light meter (or use the one in the camera). All pix from an XTI? Some of them look a bit under exposed and they are very noisey, namely the ones with the white Z on the sand, Its also a bit oof. Remember rule of thirds and practice, practice practice. What lenses do you have? Dont forget your white balance also. Use the appropriate WB for the condition. ie- if its sunny out use the sunny balance, if theres overcast use the cloudy balance...and if your shooting at night use the tungston (sp) good luck
I know you can take two shots with compensation for car or bg and Photoshop. The noise comes from too compensation (+esposure) with Post Processing, which I know I can fix with noise editors (noise ninja).Light metering is always tricky with a white car and black car especially... I'm finding that out. I'll try and use bracketing next time out. The black BMW, since it's all black, has most of the details hidden since it was also shot at night. I tried Apple's Aperture program, and it's pretty cool. Again, when you adjust +exposure, you emphasize noise that is already present... but you may already have known.
Buying an extra light meter...damn, more photography tools?
BTW ,the Canon software is pretty cool. It lets you adjust camera settings (white balance and shooting modes [portrait/landscape/b&w...etc]) if you are shooting in RAW, which I do. So if you forget to change white balance, you can always do it in post process, and you'll get the same results as if you changed it in-camera...
Shots were with the kit 18-55, Canon 50mm f1.8, and Sigma 17-70mm.
01-10-2007, 10:23 PM
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0% post processing except for resize. Taken tonight... just cause I'm getting a bit too carried away with this photography stuff. Taken with Canon XTi and Sigma 17-70. Whatever noise you see is actually artifacting from JPEG compression.
01-11-2007, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ctwentytwo
Yes, it's an XTi. The pics on the sand was very early in the morning with front lighting, hence the underexposure (in the original shots). If I waited till midday, there won't be any parking, especially there. Shooting a white car with front lighting, with a low contrast background is tricky. Compensate for the sky, and the car is washed out. Compensate for the car, and the sky is washed out. I know you can take two shots with compensation for car or bg and Photoshop. The noise comes from too compensation (+esposure) with Post Processing, which I know I can fix with noise editors (noise ninja).
Light metering is always tricky with a white car and black car especially... I'm finding that out. I'll try and use bracketing next time out. The black BMW, since it's all black, has most of the details hidden since it was also shot at night. I tried Apple's Aperture program, and it's pretty cool. Again, when you adjust +exposure, you emphasize noise that is already present... but you may already have known.
Buying an extra light meter...damn, more photography tools?
BTW ,the Canon software is pretty cool. It lets you adjust camera settings (white balance and shooting modes [portrait/landscape/b&w...etc]) if you are shooting in RAW, which I do. So if you forget to change white balance, you can always do it in post process, and you'll get the same results as if you changed it in-camera...
Shots were with the kit 18-55, Canon 50mm f1.8, and Sigma 17-70mm.
I know you can take two shots with compensation for car or bg and Photoshop. The noise comes from too compensation (+esposure) with Post Processing, which I know I can fix with noise editors (noise ninja).Light metering is always tricky with a white car and black car especially... I'm finding that out. I'll try and use bracketing next time out. The black BMW, since it's all black, has most of the details hidden since it was also shot at night. I tried Apple's Aperture program, and it's pretty cool. Again, when you adjust +exposure, you emphasize noise that is already present... but you may already have known.
Buying an extra light meter...damn, more photography tools?
BTW ,the Canon software is pretty cool. It lets you adjust camera settings (white balance and shooting modes [portrait/landscape/b&w...etc]) if you are shooting in RAW, which I do. So if you forget to change white balance, you can always do it in post process, and you'll get the same results as if you changed it in-camera...
Shots were with the kit 18-55, Canon 50mm f1.8, and Sigma 17-70mm.
File size: 388837 bytes
File date: 2006:12:20 21:29:12
Camera make: Canon
Camera model: Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XT
Date/Time: 2006:12:17 14:07:56
Resolution: 800 x 533
Flash used: No
Focal length: 43.0mm (35mm equivalent: 70mm)
CCD width: 22.20mm
Exposure time: 0.0005 s (1/2000)
Aperture: f/5.0
ISO equiv.: 200
Whitebalance: Manual
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Auto bracketing
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some very nice pics and tips guys, i'm getting in to photography myself and would like to know more about iso, aperature, exposure, white balance and all the camera aspects i didn't know I had in my dsc f717. Is there a site that can explain all of these pretty good. I know if some things like if you want a lot of backround you need to use an aperature that's smaller but doing so makes it darker so you need to compensate with shutter speed right? now my question is when does the ISO and white balance come to play?
01-11-2007, 07:34 AM
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i got bored lol
I brightened it up a bit...took out the Z from the fender (i hate that thing!) added a little contrast, despeckled, brought out the red in the tail light alot and adjusted the levels. I also rotated it +10 degrees bc you had it a littel too much. hope u dont mind!
I brightened it up a bit...took out the Z from the fender (i hate that thing!) added a little contrast, despeckled, brought out the red in the tail light alot and adjusted the levels. I also rotated it +10 degrees bc you had it a littel too much. hope u dont mind!
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Originally Posted by bisdakr
some very nice pics and tips guys, i'm getting in to photography myself and would like to know more about iso, aperature, exposure, white balance and all the camera aspects i didn't know I had in my dsc f717. Is there a site that can explain all of these pretty good. I know if some things like if you want a lot of backround you need to use an aperature that's smaller but doing so makes it darker so you need to compensate with shutter speed right? now my question is when does the ISO and white balance come to play?
Ok sounds like your on the right path.
Step 1- take you camera out of auto mode and switch it to manual. Manual lets you tell the camera what you wanna do not the camera tell you what it wants to do.
Step 2- learn what appreture (f stop), exposure and white balance do and mean)
step-3 take pix of everything and practice, remember you dont have to pay for film. also set your camera to the best resolution possible. The camera will pick up details you never knew were there. I gotta moon shot to die for, and yu never would have known it was there.
if you have questions im me prototyp01civic or st00kee Ill help anyway I can. Heres a good site to learn how to get better pix (not take them) it teaches you how to frame better.
http://asp.photo.free.fr/Composition...ainClass.shtml
