Notices
Shop Builds Temp moving posts for some clean up of this section.

Forged Performance: Another 600whp Project hits the road!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-06-2008, 10:30 AM
  #121  
Z1 Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Z1 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

sucks

check for moisture around the master too
Old 04-06-2008, 12:27 PM
  #122  
D350Z10
New Member
iTrader: (20)
 
D350Z10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,218
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I also checked for bubbles in the reservoir... there was nothing. Tried starting the car again.. it almost turned over but didn't.

So monday gonna order a new slave cyclinder, install it, bleed the clutch again and hopefully it fukin works...
Old 04-06-2008, 12:33 PM
  #123  
Z1 Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Z1 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

its odd it won't start though....usually that doesn't happen unless there is a big vacuum leak. We know what it's like to be 95% there; it's happened to all of us who have gone as far with the mod plans. I was sooo close last year when we did my car, and bleeding the coolant system completely kicked our *** and it took us forever to get it sorted out. But, once you get it resolved, you'll be too busy enjoying the car to remember

Last edited by Z1 Performance; 04-06-2008 at 12:36 PM.
Old 04-06-2008, 01:09 PM
  #124  
D350Z10
New Member
iTrader: (20)
 
D350Z10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,218
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

It is weird becasue, thrusday when I recieved the car... It started everytime... then the following friday I tried to start it and no luck.. I have tried all three days since thrusday and the car hasn't started.
Old 04-06-2008, 01:12 PM
  #125  
Z1 Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Z1 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

any codes?
Old 04-06-2008, 01:14 PM
  #126  
D350Z10
New Member
iTrader: (20)
 
D350Z10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,218
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

No... and I dont have a obd2 scanner.

While the car was at Forged Sharif stated that the car had a little trouble starting some time but all I would have to do is crank the key for about 5 seconds and it would fire up...
Old 04-06-2008, 01:16 PM
  #127  
JAM3Z
Phenom
iTrader: (17)
 
JAM3Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Greenville SC
Posts: 8,639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

this is retarded, but when was the last time you changed your battery?
Old 04-06-2008, 01:21 PM
  #128  
D350Z10
New Member
iTrader: (20)
 
D350Z10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,218
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Battery is on a charger at all times.... 1.5 amps is the size of the trickel charger
Old 04-06-2008, 02:59 PM
  #129  
rrmedicx
Registered User
iTrader: (54)
 
rrmedicx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: NY
Posts: 1,731
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

In the same way that the MOTIVE brake bleeder can pump or push fluid out to each of the brake calipers, is there an additional cap that we can maybe purchase that would fit the clutch fluid reservoir to help accomplish the same thing? Perhaps this might be another option to make the bleeding process easier?

http://www.motiveproducts.com/
Old 04-06-2008, 04:22 PM
  #130  
XKR
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
XKR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas, Arizona,Cayman Island
Posts: 5,256
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by D350Z10
It is weird becasue, thrusday when I recieved the car... It started everytime... then the following friday I tried to start it and no luck.. I have tried all three days since thrusday and the car hasn't started.

That is weird......because everything you have listed has happened to me and it was cured by the bleeding. Did you call Sharif?
Old 04-06-2008, 05:05 PM
  #131  
D350Z10
New Member
iTrader: (20)
 
D350Z10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,218
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Yes I called Sharif, we were trouble shooting with the haltech and still wouldn't start.

Just cause everyone said just keep bleeding... I spent the last hour just bleeding again.. went through another 1/2 bottle of fluid and counted 32 times of opening and closing the bleeder valve.

At this point I have to rule out air in the system... there is new fluid in there and still no pressure to return the clutch pedal.
Old 04-07-2008, 04:51 AM
  #132  
rcdash
New Member
iTrader: (18)
 
rcdash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 6,474
Received 65 Likes on 56 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by D350Z10
Yes I called Sharif, we were trouble shooting with the haltech and still wouldn't start.

Just cause everyone said just keep bleeding... I spent the last hour just bleeding again.. went through another 1/2 bottle of fluid and counted 32 times of opening and closing the bleeder valve.

At this point I have to rule out air in the system... there is new fluid in there and still no pressure to return the clutch pedal.
I haven't studied the MT in this car but as far as I know the options are air, air, air, slave cylinder, or master cylinder. Odd that it would happen overnight. And that the car won't start. No vacuum leaks that you can find? You probably have a ton of hoses coming off the manifold - check all the T-junctions also to see if one has popped off. Check the vacuum hose that goes into the Haltech in the passenger compartment (plugs in to the built in MAP sensor embedded in the Haltech).

Do you have a boost/vacuum gauge - does it read anything? Not sure you have it wired to read during cranking or if you'd be able to tell a vacuum loss that way...

Don't give up - you'll get this figured out!

Hope you find the issue soon and get back on the road!

EDIT: See FSM procedure attached for bleeding - looks like a clear hose will be helpful if you're not using one already.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf
Pages from CL.pdf (22.4 KB, 89 views)

Last edited by rcdash; 04-07-2008 at 08:40 AM.
Old 04-07-2008, 06:15 AM
  #133  
Dynosty
Vendor - Former Vendor
iTrader: (27)
 
Dynosty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 2,137
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by D350Z10
So let me get this process clear....

Pump 5-6 times, on the 6th time hold the pedal down, then open the bleeder valve... let the fluid poor out till it stops (2-3 seconds) then wait an additional 2-3 seconds when no fluid is coming out and close the valve, then release the clutch pedal.

Is this correct? This is what I have been doing...
Dil,
You do have a hose (preferably clear) hooked to the bleeder with constant fluid against the bleeder I hope? (Holding the line above the bleeder, so the air can rise out the top and fluid stays down against the valve)
Old 04-07-2008, 07:04 AM
  #134  
XKR
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
XKR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas, Arizona,Cayman Island
Posts: 5,256
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by D350Z10
Yes I called Sharif, we were trouble shooting with the haltech and still wouldn't start.

Just cause everyone said just keep bleeding... I spent the last hour just bleeding again.. went through another 1/2 bottle of fluid and counted 32 times of opening and closing the bleeder valve.

At this point I have to rule out air in the system... there is new fluid in there and still no pressure to return the clutch pedal.
Just spoke to the mechanic from infiniti that fix my clutch issue about your problems. He said the same thing....he said that he had to call infiniti himself to find out what else he could do because he could not fix the problem....and they just told him to keep bleeding.

Hate to see anyone going through this...
Old 04-07-2008, 09:06 AM
  #135  
D350Z10
New Member
iTrader: (20)
 
D350Z10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,218
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hal@IP
Dil,
You do have a hose (preferably clear) hooked to the bleeder with constant fluid against the bleeder I hope? (Holding the line above the bleeder, so the air can rise out the top and fluid stays down against the valve)
Ive read about this clear hose but ... didn't understand how the process worked.

I have been opening and closing the bleeder with a 8mm socket wrench no hose attached to it, just letting the fluid dump into a can....

Im suppose to attach a hose to the bleeder, and let the fluid poor out of the hose?
Old 04-07-2008, 01:36 PM
  #136  
__jb
Z + Rear Seat
iTrader: (3)
 
__jb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: St.Pete,FL
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by D350Z10
Ive read about this clear hose but ... didn't understand how the process worked.

I have been opening and closing the bleeder with a 8mm socket wrench no hose attached to it, just letting the fluid dump into a can....

Im suppose to attach a hose to the bleeder, and let the fluid poor out of the hose?
Attach the clear hose to the bleeder and run the other end of the hose into a jar or cup with brake (clutch) fluid in it. Make sure the brake fluid in the cup covers the second end of the hose. Use an open ended wrench to loosen and tighten the bleeder.

This way, if the bleeder sucks a little as you tighten it, it will suck in brake fluid in, not air. This might be your problem. I know you don't want to hear about more bleeding, but try this.

Last edited by __jb; 04-07-2008 at 01:39 PM.
Old 04-07-2008, 01:56 PM
  #137  
D350Z10
New Member
iTrader: (20)
 
D350Z10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,218
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Went to the dealer.. picked up a new slave cyclinder.

Installed the slave cyclinder... then bleed the clutch, I went through another can of brake fluid.. still no fukin luck.

Wait there is more bad news.... when I was tightening the bleeder screw.. the fukin screw broke , so now I have to get another FUKIN slave cyclinder.

I tried using a tube and an open ended wrench... still no luck

On another note car does start... but I just have to push the safety button with my hand to start it
Old 04-07-2008, 02:45 PM
  #138  
rrmedicx
Registered User
iTrader: (54)
 
rrmedicx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: NY
Posts: 1,731
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Please give this car to someone else to fix for you!!! You've paid this much for all of your mods, but now you won't pay for someone to bleed the damn clutch for you. Come on...

...watching you go thru so much torture is killing me. I just want to hear that you got it going and what a blast it is to drive

...Enough drama. Get 'er done!!!!
Old 04-07-2008, 03:09 PM
  #139  
D350Z10
New Member
iTrader: (20)
 
D350Z10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,218
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I had a guy that was suppose to come over (a former tech at a shop here) but his fukin dumb *** never showed up and won't pick up his phone.

So now the car is shipping back to Forged Peformance...

P.S. If anyone wants to help my cause and can donate any amount of money that would be greatful!!!!!!! Just pm me!
Old 04-07-2008, 03:21 PM
  #140  
eagletanggreen
Got Track!!!!!
iTrader: (40)
 
eagletanggreen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fayetteville, NC
Posts: 3,307
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by D350Z10
I had a guy that was suppose to come over (a former tech at a shop here) but his fukin dumb *** never showed up and won't pick up his phone.

So now the car is shipping back to Forged Peformance...

P.S. If anyone wants to help my cause and can donate any amount of money that would be greatful!!!!!!! Just pm me!

Well If it make you feel any better, my car fans are crazy, they come on and work whenever they want to. Sometimes 1 works sometimes they both work. I hate these fans, I have to disconnect the neg bat terminal to turn my car off. Also my meth tune is continuing to back fire when I do crazy fast shiftsm but not to bad, just would hate to destroy a new Cosworth plenum, also when my meth is engaged at low rpms in a high gear at low speed and when boost is being built and get off the gas hard, my car goes into Limp mode and have to cycle the ignition on and off. If I knew what a pain in the *** moding this car was, I would have never done it. I am convinced that there is no shop on this forum that can build me a reliable car with 700hp for my driving style. From here on out its all about keeping the car together (not reliability). Dil I am sorry you have to go threw this pain in the *** ordeal, but I know how it feels. I know brother all promises!!!! In the end we are the ones paying the price.


Quick Reply: Forged Performance: Another 600whp Project hits the road!



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:18 AM.