No one uses Megasquirt?
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But your also a vender for a competing EMS.
...and this is why I hate Car Forums and the Internet.
You, someone which could be taken for a member of credibility, a respected vender and a good source of information... starts bashing MS... so everyone, who has no knowledge, experience or opinion one way or the other, then also takes up your stance that MS = BP Tires.
Before you know it, and entire community is now down on MS because of all the half-truth, second hand knowledge and urban legends that have been circling around it.
KA24DE comes to mind... forever, the 240sx community hated on the engine, it was a "overweight truck engine", I remember seeing stuff like "it's pistons will crack at 200whp" or "the block can't take more then 13psi"... and people believed it... happily swaping in SRs for oodles of cash and the myth was happily excepted by tuner shops making coin selling and installing swaps...
12 years later... ZOMFG 2.4L iron block torque monster that can run 7's making +1000whp.... ZOMFG 500RWHP for less then $3,500... or a proper SR Swap with 190whp.
As for a +2003 Nissan, ie 350Z running MS... no, I have not seen one, which is why I was searching and started this thread. So MS sucks then? Hardly... just because no one has done it, doesn't mean squat. As mentioned, it seems most people here are quite happy to give a shop $1,300+ to install a piggy-back or chip and tune their car for them... even more so, most people seem to have "Supra-Syndrome" and are happy to drop their car off at a shop, spend +$15k, pick it up two months latter and have a 500hp car after begging mommy or swiping a CC.
I mean shyite, your selling a one time flash for $400... an the Tuner is $900...
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/\ Most self tuner here use Utec coz it is much cheaper and does what MS does.. You can get a used Utec for $500 and there are loads of base map that you can use. Maybe you want to re-invent the wheel and want to take all the challanges and headache but for some there are more option out there without pulling their hair out.. Utec has full control of the Ignition and Fuel on boost and not to mention it has added safety feature like overboost cutoff, active knock control, boost control...etc.
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Can it and leave my thread please. In your few posts you have show a raging bias against MS. Not only do you have to childishly talk down about the system, referring to it as "bias ply tires", which is a better comparison if I was talking about converting a 350Z to a carburetor set up...
But your also a vender for a competing EMS.
...and this is why I hate Car Forums and the Internet.
You, someone which could be taken for a member of credibility, a respected vender and a good source of information... starts bashing MS... so everyone, who has no knowledge, experience or opinion one way or the other, then also takes up your stance that MS = BP Tires.
Before you know it, and entire community is now down on MS because of all the half-truth, second hand knowledge and urban legends that have been circling around it.
KA24DE comes to mind... forever, the 240sx community hated on the engine, it was a "overweight truck engine", I remember seeing stuff like "it's pistons will crack at 200whp" or "the block can't take more then 13psi"... and people believed it... happily swaping in SRs for oodles of cash and the myth was happily excepted by tuner shops making coin selling and installing swaps...
12 years later... ZOMFG 2.4L iron block torque monster that can run 7's making +1000whp.... ZOMFG 500RWHP for less then $3,500... or a proper SR Swap with 190whp.
As for a +2003 Nissan, ie 350Z running MS... no, I have not seen one, which is why I was searching and started this thread. So MS sucks then? Hardly... just because no one has done it, doesn't mean squat. As mentioned, it seems most people here are quite happy to give a shop $1,300+ to install a piggy-back or chip and tune their car for them... even more so, most people seem to have "Supra-Syndrome" and are happy to drop their car off at a shop, spend +$15k, pick it up two months latter and have a 500hp car after begging mommy or swiping a CC.
I mean shyite, your selling a one time flash for $400... an the Tuner is $900...
But your also a vender for a competing EMS.
...and this is why I hate Car Forums and the Internet.
You, someone which could be taken for a member of credibility, a respected vender and a good source of information... starts bashing MS... so everyone, who has no knowledge, experience or opinion one way or the other, then also takes up your stance that MS = BP Tires.
Before you know it, and entire community is now down on MS because of all the half-truth, second hand knowledge and urban legends that have been circling around it.
KA24DE comes to mind... forever, the 240sx community hated on the engine, it was a "overweight truck engine", I remember seeing stuff like "it's pistons will crack at 200whp" or "the block can't take more then 13psi"... and people believed it... happily swaping in SRs for oodles of cash and the myth was happily excepted by tuner shops making coin selling and installing swaps...
12 years later... ZOMFG 2.4L iron block torque monster that can run 7's making +1000whp.... ZOMFG 500RWHP for less then $3,500... or a proper SR Swap with 190whp.
As for a +2003 Nissan, ie 350Z running MS... no, I have not seen one, which is why I was searching and started this thread. So MS sucks then? Hardly... just because no one has done it, doesn't mean squat. As mentioned, it seems most people here are quite happy to give a shop $1,300+ to install a piggy-back or chip and tune their car for them... even more so, most people seem to have "Supra-Syndrome" and are happy to drop their car off at a shop, spend +$15k, pick it up two months latter and have a 500hp car after begging mommy or swiping a CC.
I mean shyite, your selling a one time flash for $400... an the Tuner is $900...
LOL I'll go in any thread I please, I'm not bashing you or MS, it is what it is and it is nothing more. I asked for information you nor anyone else here are willing to waste time answering. You asked a question and I answered it. I also responded to people claiming contrary.
Forums are for discussion, no one here is willing to discuss because they haven't the slightest clue about the products other than "i installed one and it worked" or "i heard about it before". I gave an actual response and i'll respond to my deriders as I see fit.
The analogy to bias play tires is once again valid as we're talking a huge generational gap between products in the same category. I'm sorry if you don't understand that, I really am.
I am a member of credibility, a respected vender and a good source of information. I'm not bashing the product, I'm telling the truth. It's out dated. Here how about if i put it to you in more simple terms. For $300 you can buy a Pentium2 400Mhz machine you can load Netscape Navigator and you can get to the internet, you can send e-mail from Eudora and interact with friends using AIM. I made very valid claims saying those things, they are all possible and honest. It just so happens that you already have a 2.4Ghz Dell Laptop with Mozilla, Outlook and AIM on it, why wouldn't you use that?
The stock ECU is far more robust, faster, capable, and reliable. Why would you remove the newer better item to go with the older item just because it worked before?
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You don't at all understand our product. Osiris Tuner is a full self tuning software package. It is a Flash system. Our Pro Tuners use the exact same Flash to do anything they're doing. So you're incorrect sir.
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This is all too funny beacause I did a bunch of research before I decided to go with a UTEC (do to budget). While researching, I called the local shop and asked them about Osiris. They told me not to bother with it, there are many better options out there.
There goes the sales pitch.
Oh BTW I am not bashing Osiris it's just "what I heard"
I ended up with a Haltech, and BTW I built my own MS unit, tested it, wired it to my OEM ECU, and tuned it. So it's not just a case of; "I installed it and it worked".
There goes the sales pitch.
Oh BTW I am not bashing Osiris it's just "what I heard"
I ended up with a Haltech, and BTW I built my own MS unit, tested it, wired it to my OEM ECU, and tuned it. So it's not just a case of; "I installed it and it worked".
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This is all too funny beacause I did a bunch of research before I decided to go with a UTEC (do to budget). While researching, I called the local shop and asked them about Osiris. They told me not to bother with it, there are many better options out there.
There goes the sales pitch.
Oh BTW I am not bashing Osiris it's just "what I heard"
I ended up with a Haltech, and BTW I built my own MS unit, tested it, wired it to my OEM ECU, and tuned it. So it's not just a case of; "I installed it and it worked".
There goes the sales pitch.
Oh BTW I am not bashing Osiris it's just "what I heard"
I ended up with a Haltech, and BTW I built my own MS unit, tested it, wired it to my OEM ECU, and tuned it. So it's not just a case of; "I installed it and it worked".
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If anything, since you've carried on so long now, you've completely turned me off to Osiris.
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I never attempted to run MS on the Z, and ended up buying a UTEC. While building my own turbo kit I had the opportunity to buy a Haltech and took advatage of the deal. Ended up sellin the UTEC, my build:
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...brication.html
It was my winter project and the car is almost ready to go for tuning.
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/\ +1, even for someone who has MS knowledge/experience, there are just to many option for the Z/G35 platform and some are very cost effective that it is really not practical to use MS.
OP, like I said on my previous post, most self tuner here just go with Utec coz it is very cost effective with lots of support and very easy to use... If Utec or E-Ultimate wasn't available for our car then I'm pretty sure there will be more guys experimenting with the MS.
Now that you mention it, I wont be surprise if someone go venture and try the MS but I'm pretty sure that person is just doing it just to be the first or to be different and not because it is more cost effective and practical. just .02
OP, like I said on my previous post, most self tuner here just go with Utec coz it is very cost effective with lots of support and very easy to use... If Utec or E-Ultimate wasn't available for our car then I'm pretty sure there will be more guys experimenting with the MS.
Now that you mention it, I wont be surprise if someone go venture and try the MS but I'm pretty sure that person is just doing it just to be the first or to be different and not because it is more cost effective and practical. just .02
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This is all too funny beacause I did a bunch of research before I decided to go with a UTEC (do to budget). While researching, I called the local shop and asked them about Osiris. They told me not to bother with it, there are many better options out there.
There goes the sales pitch.
Oh BTW I am not bashing Osiris it's just "what I heard"
I ended up with a Haltech, and BTW I built my own MS unit, tested it, wired it to my OEM ECU, and tuned it. So it's not just a case of; "I installed it and it worked".
There goes the sales pitch.
Oh BTW I am not bashing Osiris it's just "what I heard"
I ended up with a Haltech, and BTW I built my own MS unit, tested it, wired it to my OEM ECU, and tuned it. So it's not just a case of; "I installed it and it worked".
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So chances are when he checked email, he read your “first” post the way it was originally written (even though that may have been 45 minutes later)… and logged on to post a reply – but of course you edited your post and are not denying it, so even though I really don’t give a ****, it sure seems that he is correct and you are hiding it – “nice try though”