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Old 10-09-2011, 09:16 AM
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Default Tachometer reads high

I Have a 07 G35 with just an intake and a COBB tuner.

I have been playing around with this COBB tuner and noticed the revs on the tachometer are higher than the digital readout of the COBB. For instance at 3000 on the tach was only 2880 on the COBB. At 5000 on the COBB was 4800 on the COBB.

What I am getting at is the engine is only at 7200 when I think I am shifting at 7500.
Shifting at or near 7600 on the tach has never put me in the rev limiter, and this is why. So I am thinking the limiter is closer to 7900 on the tach. Maybe this is a saftey mechanism from the factory for those who have no fear of redline.

Has anyone else noticed this on their G or Z?
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:40 AM
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Mine is pretty accurate. I shift at just over 8K and the cobb logs show just that.

Your gauge may be a little off.
Old 10-09-2011, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Italianjoe1
Mine is pretty accurate. I shift at just over 8K and the cobb logs show just that.

Your gauge may be a little off.
you make no power at 8k whats the point of having it set so high?
Old 10-09-2011, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SE5spd
you make no power at 8k whats the point of having it set so high?
Because I can?

Proof of making less power at that point?
Old 10-09-2011, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Italianjoe1
Because I can?

Proof of making less power at that point?
proof of making more?

its your car so I dont care that much I just wanted to know why you decided to.
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Originally Posted by SE5spd
proof of making more?

its your car so I dont care that much I just wanted to know why you decided to.
Keeps me in the powerband on the 1-2 shift, car is faster that way. There is more power from 75-8 than there is from 5-55. I'd rather spin 1st a little higher and be in a better part of 2nd gear. Dont need to rev that high for the other shifts since the gears are closer.
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Originally Posted by Italianjoe1
Keeps me in the powerband on the 1-2 shift, car is faster that way. There is more power from 75-8 than there is from 5-55. I'd rather spin 1st a little higher and be in a better part of 2nd gear. Dont need to rev that high for the other shifts since the gears are closer.
I just saw you are on the bottle, makes more sense now.
Old 10-09-2011, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SE5spd
I just saw you are on the bottle, makes more sense now.
Does it? I'm genuinely curious if nitrous allows the motor to continue to maintain HP past 7500 on an otherwise stock block.

If it doesn't, then running out first gear past redline will only make his car slower.
Old 10-10-2011, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterSellers
Does it? I'm genuinely curious if nitrous allows the motor to continue to maintain HP past 7500 on an otherwise stock block.

If it doesn't, then running out first gear past redline will only make his car slower.
if I continues to spray to 8k then yes it would make power but most people dont spray until redline. Im not sure what his setup is like, I just know he has nitrous.
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It honestly has nothing to do with nitrous. Look at the RPM spread between 1st and second gear. When you shift at 7300 or so, before a 7500 limiter hits, you land around 5K in 2nd, a bit low in the powerband. There is a slight lack of power before you really get into the cams at 5.5+ and have the meat of the powerband back until the next shift. Only place this happens is 1-2, as all other gears have a closer spread. You can shift to third at 7600rpms and land at nearly 6K.

I don't spray in 1st, car spins tires on motor anyway, but carrying the gear all the way to 8K allows me to hit 2nd gear in a better part of the powerband and help lower the torque hit from the nitrous when it activates (torque gain from nitrous falls as rpms raise) so the tires don't break loose in 2nd.

Regardless, the falling power from 7500-8000 is still more than the climbing power from 5000-5500, especially with test pipes and other restriction lowering mods that don't strangle the engine at high rpms as badly as stock. I agree in other gears, there is not much reason to push the car any higher, and I usually don't.

Besides, the car sounds great at higher rpms

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Originally Posted by PeterSellers
Does it? I'm genuinely curious if nitrous allows the motor to continue to maintain HP past 7500 on an otherwise stock block.

If it doesn't, then running out first gear past redline will only make his car slower.
Further, delaying the shift on a pair of evenly matched cars almost always makes the car slightly faster. The added momentum you can carry from getting slightly more speed out of each gear, coupled with the powerband effect mentioned earlier, ensures that the car will never be "slower" than if I shifted earlier. I enjoy the run with a stock redline car, where I have a couple hundred rpms to pull after they shift. It's visually very hard to understand, why i'm still going after they let off to shift, even if the actual speed difference isn't much.
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Originally Posted by Italianjoe1
Mine is pretty accurate. I shift at just over 8K and the cobb logs show just that.

Your gauge may be a little off.
Must be on the G only. I also have a Z and is pretty accurate as well, via UpRev logs.
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You guys and your hr motors. I want to rev that high too
Old 10-10-2011, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Italianjoe1
Mine is pretty accurate. I shift at just over 8K and the cobb logs show just that.

Your gauge may be a little off.
Just please do us all a favor & try to remember the sound the engine makes when revving this high.......just before the explosion, so you can tell us what the sound of $$$$ in the trash sounded like.

I no has the bottle but, my car way raps out long before 8K rpms, in any gear.
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Originally Posted by 350ZTheStandard
Just please do us all a favor & try to remember the sound the engine makes when revving this high.......just before the explosion, so you can tell us what the sound of $$$$ in the trash sounded like.

I no has the bottle but, my car way raps out long before 8K rpms, in any gear.
You sounds angry lol.

Want me to show you vids of it passing 8500?
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Originally Posted by 350ZTheStandard
Just please do us all a favor & try to remember the sound the engine makes when revving this high.......just before the explosion, so you can tell us what the sound of $$$$ in the trash sounded like.

I no has the bottle but, my car way raps out long before 8K rpms, in any gear.
You sounds angry lol.

Want me to show you vids of it passing 8500?
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Originally Posted by Italianjoe1
You sounds angry lol.

Want me to show you vids of it passing 8500?
yes. Post NOW or youre lying!
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