Glover41

Anyone picked these in non-stepped version ( with reducers ) for the HR ?!

Yes i understand that for the HR it's recommended to have the stepped version but never seen one trying the nonstepped's with reducers for his HR.

I went thro that Loooong PPE thread with all it's 73 pages but didn't come across with an HR fella trying the non-steppeds on his engine .. Only one guy who received the wrong setup ( non-stepped ) for his HR but never come back for a review ..

I'm asking this because .. All non stepped versions worked very very well for all DE guys, but it varied between the HR fellas with all their stepped setups ..

so thought why not have the nonstepped version for my HR.. !

Oh and not to mention that guy with his Cammed HR, when he dropped power when installed these ( stepped ).

Besides the merge collector, i think the reducers ( which only available in nonstepped ) are doing the main job! .... that make me think, why not have reducers in the stepped versions too !!

Anyways, let's here your experiences on these .. i'm sure many people got these already since that time ..

Thank you ..

0jiggy0

iTrader: (13)

who lost power with these and cams, i missed that one.

Glover41

^ MM'08_350Z ...

He went down from 322whp ( stillen shorties+TPs ) to 302 whp ( stepped PPE's).
Cams were installed in both setup's btw ...

Glover41

So .. anyone wanna share his/her experience ?!

travlee

iTrader: (8)

but did he lose power because he didnt retune or because of the headers..... asking because i am not sure what all he did

Glover41

^ He did retune the car but that didn't help either, I think Cams and PPE's don't work together .. He ended up FI'ed btw.

Anyone else running these with some after market Cams ?!
Or .. anyone running these as non-stepped with reducers in the HR ?!

T-dizee

iTrader: (6)

I'm learning more and more that Cammed HR's do night like LTH's. I'm working with a guy that helped JWT on kels high compression piston and cam combo. He said the HR's made more power with shorties cammed. I do not know how true this is. But, I just installed momentum headers on mine and getting ready to try Tomei 272's here soon to see how true it really is. Kels is a "mid longtube" with a one off collector that PPE's can't touch. Again I can't speak for kels build. But I'm trying it out to see how it goes. Guy in japan laid down 339 with the 272's and no springs and retainers, stock headers.stock compression too. With a restricted exhaust. I'll be posting the results as the Ginny pig lol.

Glover41

Well i'm running Tomei's 272 all around in my HR, but again i'm NA high compression built, stroked to 4.0 ( BC kit ) .. Car runs like a champ but hey you may not see the same result with your future Tomie Cams ..

I'm running with stillen shorties btw but you kno .. fella won't get satisfied unless he squeezes it to death lol .. This mod bug won't leave me alone

Anyways, I'm really tempted to these PPE's .. But my worries if i'm gonna lose power just like our fella above .. Yes i'm - unlike him - stroked/high comp built but still ...

The_Assassin

Awesome build man. Still hiding those numbers? I bet your making atleast 345 whp lol. Did you have to sleeve the block?

Glover41

Its actually more than that lol.

Answering your question, no i didn't have to sleeve the block, pistons are in 96mm bore so sleeving was not required.

I drive a 08 G35 sedan btw ..

The_Assassin

Someone told me I would have to sleeve the block which is why I abandoned my NA build and was going to get sts rear mount turbo. NA is boss but I had thought that I would need to sleeve the block...this is why its best to ask people that have actually done it lol.

Glover41

^ well like i said before it depends on the bore you pick the pistons for.
If it is 100mm then you would have to sleeve the block for sure .

0jiggy0

iTrader: (13)

Well i have PPE's and my tomeis are on the slow boat from japan :/

Glover41

lol .. what tomeis are you getting ? pon or pro ?
and what gain did you see out of your PPE's ?! i believe they're stepped right ?

doshoru

iTrader: (3)

Hey, I'm the guy that got the non-stepped with reducer.

Truth be told...they were never installed and are still hanging on my wall. The state of GA started doing visuals and I was worried about the PITA it would be passing emissions.

Still have had thoughts of installing them anyways, but...considering a new car now.

If it's true that cammed cars don't do well with the longtubes...ouch.

0jiggy0

iTrader: (13)

I wouldn't say cams. More to the fact that certain durations and lift don't match up.

Glover41

Let us know how it goes with your future cams .. I feel that you'll get a decent gain with your momentum headers!

Glover41

Heyy glad to see you alive lol ..
Ok lemme know if ever decided to sell them out !

Glover41

K bro keep us updated when you get ur cams installed. Thx

T-dizee

iTrader: (6)

will do! going in soon.