Full S-tune 370z Parts revealed!! plus alot of other exclusive info
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I think the nismo body kit is kind of freaky looking. Hopefully the other companies bring out more simple designs.
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This is all starting to make more sense now. When I saw the increase in weight over the years for the Z33 I was quite surprised. 150+ lbs is alot and for the 07+ to gain that much from +03 using the same chassis I found weird. Especially since the base didn't really gain that much in features so I had no idea where that weight came from. The HR couldn't have been that much heavier since it even has a composite intake manifold now.
But from a marketing stand point it makes perfect sense. Slightly increase weight to cover the weight of the 370Z to make it look like a weight loss and since the HR got a bump in HP so people won't mind.
But from a marketing stand point it makes perfect sense. Slightly increase weight to cover the weight of the 370Z to make it look like a weight loss and since the HR got a bump in HP so people won't mind.
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Now we have 414bhp V8 ;-)
I think a 400 hp V8 is not out of the question... I hope it's not japan only. But then the car would need AWD to get any traction..
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You don't need AWD to get traction from a 400bhp car.
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I'm gonna' have to butt in and say that my theory was correct the whole time. The weights between the 03-05, 06, and 07-08 Zs haven't changed much. I've mentioned this many times before, but my 06 Touring weighed 3250 stock with all fluids full. Gooey's 07 Enthusiast weighed about 30lbs less than mine. I recall 03-06 base Zs weighing under 3200lbs, so if these numbers are accurate, the 370Z has actually gained weight.
My theory is that Nissan intentionally BSes their weight numbers for the 350Z so that when it comes time to announce the 370Z officially, they can say that the car's shed weight over the 350Z, which was a bloated figure to begin with. We shall see...
My theory is that Nissan intentionally BSes their weight numbers for the 350Z so that when it comes time to announce the 370Z officially, they can say that the car's shed weight over the 350Z, which was a bloated figure to begin with. We shall see...
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I am still a bit dumbfounded by the weight..... We will see.
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First, you seem to be missing the official weight numbers for the 370Z posted in the brochure. My theory makes sense because we've now discovered that the 370 doesn't weigh less than the 350Z. And as for how could it not weigh less? Take a look at that interior, quality of materials definitely looks better than our current cars now - much of it seems ripped right out of the Maxima and G35. Furthermore, a 4 inch cut from the chassis doesn't guarantee a weight loss. We don't know what kind of suspension components Nissan is using for the 370Z, which often add a lot of weight, in addition to a whole bunch of other, specifically the sound deadening.
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First, you seem to be missing the official weight numbers for the 370Z posted in the brochure. My theory makes sense because we've now discovered that the 370 doesn't weigh less than the 350Z. And as for how could it not weigh less? Take a look at that interior, quality of materials definitely looks better than our current cars now - much of it seems ripped right out of the Maxima and G35. Furthermore, a 4 inch cut from the chassis doesn't guarantee a weight loss. We don't know what kind of suspension components Nissan is using for the 370Z, which often add a lot of weight, in addition to a whole bunch of other, specifically the sound deadening.
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First, you seem to be missing the official weight numbers for the 370Z posted in the brochure. My theory makes sense because we've now discovered that the 370 doesn't weigh less than the 350Z. And as for how could it not weigh less? Take a look at that interior, quality of materials definitely looks better than our current cars now - much of it seems ripped right out of the Maxima and G35. Furthermore, a 4 inch cut from the chassis doesn't guarantee a weight loss. We don't know what kind of suspension components Nissan is using for the 370Z, which often add a lot of weight, in addition to a whole bunch of other, specifically the sound deadening.
Still a good improvement over the current base when you consider the additional power.
Power to weight, assuming the 370Z will have approximately 335hp and the 350Z 306hp.
350Z: 306 hp/3,339 lbs = .0916
370Z: 335 hp/3,256 lbs = .1029
Porsche Cayman S (manual, auto weighs more): 295 hp /2976 lbs = .0999
Or you could look at it by the amount of weight per horsepower.
350Z: 10.911
370Z: 9.719
Cayman S: 10.088
Here is a list of most power to weight ratios.
http://www.aspecpro.com/browse.php?car=Porsche
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I'm not saying that Nissan won't change that formula in the future, I'm just saying your example is flawed.
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First, you seem to be missing the official weight numbers for the 370Z posted in the brochure. My theory makes sense because we've now discovered that the 370 doesn't weigh less than the 350Z. And as for how could it not weigh less? Take a look at that interior, quality of materials definitely looks better than our current cars now - much of it seems ripped right out of the Maxima and G35. Furthermore, a 4 inch cut from the chassis doesn't guarantee a weight loss. We don't know what kind of suspension components Nissan is using for the 370Z, which often add a lot of weight, in addition to a whole bunch of other, specifically the sound deadening.
I think your missing the point. On Nissans site the LIGHTEST model 2008 350Z comes in at an official 3320lbs, thats a base and manual tranny car. If Nissan lists the 2009 370Z at 3260lbs for the base model then the car IS lighter. Its not accurate to compare the 2009 370Z to a 2003 350Z because they are not consecutive model years. The 2008 350Z is a better performing car with a number of updates over the 2003 350Z, the 370Z is going to be lighter,more powerful, and updated car over the 2008 350Z. So yes the new Z is lighter and more powerful then the outgoing model.
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Still a good improvement over the current base when you consider the additional power.
Power to weight, assuming the 370Z will have approximately 335hp and the 350Z 306hp.
350Z: 306 hp/3,339 lbs = .0916
370Z: 335 hp/3,256 lbs = .1029
Porsche Cayman S (manual, auto weighs more): 295 hp /2976 lbs = .0999
Or you could look at it by the amount of weight per horsepower.
350Z: 10.911
370Z: 9.719
Cayman S: 10.088
Here is a list of most power to weight ratios.
http://www.aspecpro.com/browse.php?car=Porsche
Power to weight, assuming the 370Z will have approximately 335hp and the 350Z 306hp.
350Z: 306 hp/3,339 lbs = .0916
370Z: 335 hp/3,256 lbs = .1029
Porsche Cayman S (manual, auto weighs more): 295 hp /2976 lbs = .0999
Or you could look at it by the amount of weight per horsepower.
350Z: 10.911
370Z: 9.719
Cayman S: 10.088
Here is a list of most power to weight ratios.
http://www.aspecpro.com/browse.php?car=Porsche
I think your missing the point. On Nissans site the LIGHTEST model 2008 350Z comes in at an official 3320lbs, thats a base and manual tranny car. If Nissan lists the 2009 370Z at 3260lbs for the base model then the car IS lighter. Its not accurate to compare the 2009 370Z to a 2003 350Z because they are not consecutive model years. The 2008 350Z is a better performing car with a number of updates over the 2003 350Z, the 370Z is going to be lighter,more powerful, and updated car over the 2008 350Z. So yes the new Z is lighter and more powerful then the outgoing model.
Edit: Take it from someone who is in the marketing world...this seems to be Nissan's angle. They haven't dropped much, if any weight off the car. They saturated numbers for the later 350Zs, and will be using that to their advantage with the 370Z.
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