My Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's Are On!
 

I'm sure there have been numerous 'write-ups' on the PS2 tire before but I just wanted to share a little bit of my experience. I have 19" Volk SF-Challenges w/ 8.5's in front and 9.5's in the rear. After some research here on the site I decided to go with the PS2's (245/35/19 and 275/35/19) as they seem to be one of the best choices out there right now, although they are one of the pricier ones as well. So I call Chris at DTD who was very helpful and at the same time very patient. THANKS CHRIS! :icon38: I get my front two tires a couple of days after I place my order and the rear two the following week (or yesterday) because they were shipped separately, and from Ohio I believe.

Everything was running pretty smoothly until I take them to this Goodyear tire shop close to my work. I drop the car off yesterday morning and then get a call in the afternoon saying that they did not have the proper machine to do the job there and that I would have to take the car in the next day (which is today) and they would have the job done out of another location. Anyhow, I go to pick my car up just before 5 p.m. and notice the beefier-looking tires right away. I go around to the other side of the car and notice that the idiots put one of the front tires on the rear wheel and obviously one of the rear tires on one of the front wheels. I ask the dude what the hell is up with that and after looking dumb for a few seconds he sends me over to his 'other shop' where they swap the tires onto the correct wheels. Well, not only did they screw up on the tires but I also notice that some of my black rays lug-nuts are scraped in several places. I'm pretty pissed off and i'm going back tomorrow to complain to the owner. I haven't paid him yet as I had to leave to the other shop quickly and I want to let him know that i'm not very satisfied with the job (obviously :mad: ). I hope he'll at least give me some sort of a break.

ANYHOW, the tires are f'in excellent. They feel very responsive and are much quieter than my old tires. I can't say that i've really 'tested' them out but I can definitely already feel the difference while taking corners and curves. I know they also perform very well in hot weather and in the rain as well. They also look fantastic! The tread is pretty unique and the sidewalls look 'thick' which give the whole car a more aggressive look.

So all in all i'm very pleased with the tires themselves and very pissed with the tire shop. I should have asked someone on here for a recommendation on where to go to get them on. I haven't had too much experience with buying new tires (as you've probably already guessed) but I am very happy with these. I can't wait to carve up some curves and find out what they can really do.

Lastly, what can I do about the scraped lug nuts, short of buying new ones? They aren't too screwed up but they're definitely not in the best condition. Anyone have any suggestions? Also, I noticed that the inner side of my old tires were pretty worn out (especially in front) and i'd like to know what psi you guys recommend to try and prevent this from happening to my new tires. I have them set at about 37 right now and will go up to 40 or so if you guys think that would make a difference. Sorry for such a long post...

Sorry to hear!

I have Michelin Pilot PS2s also, 255/35 in the front and 295/30 in the rear.
I personally love them.
The tires are super quiet even at higher speeds and the traction is amazing.
They are worth the price.

Yep....shops are notorious for screwing up lugnuts - probably used the air
gun on them with a standard socket - that'll mess up a finish pretty quick. As for the psi in your new PS2's.....I never run more that 34 PSI cold in my PS2's so far. As they warm, it'll go up to 36-38 psi (or higher depending on road temp). Looking at the design of this tire and it's contact patch, over-inflating is the last thing this tire needs (or I guess any tire for that matter - ha!).

I love my PS2.

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I just got PS2s and the first thing I noticed was how quiet they are. This morning, they got their first workout in heavy rain. Compared to the OEM Potenzas, I'd have to say they pass with flying colors!

Honestly I don't think you can fix uneven tire wear completely just by changing pressure. You just need a good alignment and possibly camber arms.

Then again I'm not too worried about inner tire wear because I know I can always just flip the tires and swap the wheels.

The reason I asked is because on a couple of threads people were experimenting with different tire pressures and getting different results as far as their tread went. Maybe they were just wrong. What do you mean about flipping the tires however? Don't your BFG's come with an 'outside' side?

You can read the sticky from Jason@performance about this.

It's a simple idea and it works as long as the tires are non-asymmetrical (AKA symmetrical)

Example: the fronts

-Take off both wheels from the car
-Remove tire from RIGHT rim
-Flip tire 180 degrees and re-mount/balance

At this point, since the tires are directional, they are going in the "wrong" direction. That is why you:

-Mount this wheel on the LEFT side of the car
-Repeat for other wheel and mount it on the RIGHT side

Now the tires are going in the correct direction. Outside of the tire became inside and inside became outside, but they will be rotating correctly.

It's not free to do this, but it *can* be done and it's far cheaper than letting your inside tread just go to sh!t and throwing away the tires.

Ah, I see what you're saying. The tires I have though are not symmetrical. The tread is different on each side so I don't know how that would affect their performance. Are your BFG's symmetrical? I was actually going to order those instead of the PS2's but they were out of stock and I needed new tires badly. I was getting really tired of driving 65 on the freeway. :icon17: You know, on a side note, I still haven't tried the absinthe. hehehe I can't find BROWN sugar cubes anywhere and that's what the recipe calls for. Everytime I ask a person at a supermarket whether they carry them they just keep staring at me, say they don't exist, and then ask me what recipe it's for. I tell them that it's for a 'special project'. heheheh Anyhow, I saw some online on Amazon I think so I may just order it through them.

Yeah the BFGs are symmetrical, that was a sellling point for me.

Hmm, I'll bet anything they have brown sugar cubes at Whole Foods or Bristol Farms, a store of that nature.

Good luck!

It's funny you mention Whole Foods cause I actually asked there and no deal. I'll have to keep looking.

I have the Volk Duraluminum lug nuts in black. After continued use of taking wheels on and off the black coat starts to wear and you can see the bare metal showing through. I fixed it the ghetto way by using a Sharpie. Looks fine now.

Yeah, I figured I would just do something like that. They're not bad enough to where I would buy new ones or anything. Thanks.

PS2's are great dry and wet handling tires! And no road noise! Sorry to hear you had such a problem mounting them. Tires are the best mod you can make to any vehicle to make it perform better!!!!!
There are better dry handling tires out there and better wet handling, yet for the best of both worlds - these blow away everyone - hands down. And living in GA, I see both conditions all the time!
As far as pressures for max performance - I have tested them at the track - and running 36 cold in the front and 35 cold in the rear works the best according to the pyrometer. Yet, this is a little to high to run on the street, I run 32 to 35psi cold for the street.

Yeah, I agree that they make a huge difference! I'll go ahead and lower the tire pressure then to about 33-35 psi since most people are recommending these numbers. Thanks for your input! :)

How much do PS2's cost on average?? i could use some quiet tires myself but its no point without new wheels.

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You can get a good idea of the street prices from the Tirerack.com site. Prices for 255/35/19's are about $300, for the 285/35/19 about $400. I got mine locally for basically the same prices as the best online sites.

I hope Chris at DTD doesn't mind, but I got mine shipped for $1,260.00. They were running some sort of a special though so I don't know if he can go ahead and give you that price. It's worth a try asking him though.

Thanks alot man