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Old 03-29-2010, 10:07 PM
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I'm going to be getting a killer deal on some volks that are 19x10.5 +22 all around and wrapped in 285/30/19. Are there any handling issues I might need to be aware of by running a wheel that wide up front? Overall what are your thoughts about a square setup? A huge advantage is that I can rotate the tires!! hahaha I'm going to be ordering coilovers, camber kit and camber arms this week as well to make any adjustments needed to support the wheels as well. Any input is appreciated, these wheels are super rare and I've only seen one other Z sport these for a short time which is why I wanna get these
Old 03-29-2010, 11:22 PM
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hmm my brother has 19x10.5 in the back and the rims/w tires looks huge! i mean Huge!! going off from what i see from the back of the car i would say no... but i mostly likely wrong.
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start rolling those rear fenders from now not sure about the fronts fitting but it will look nice i actually prefer the square setup
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probably gonna have to run a good amount of camber in the front to fit the tire, but the back will be fine. it all depends how low you go
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thanks guys

anymore input out there?
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there is no way you will be running 285 in the front with a 10.5 +22 wheel.
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ive seen 295/30/19 all around with hoosiers which run wider than most tires. great autox setup with the right camber
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
there is no way you will be running 285 in the front with a 10.5 +22 wheel.
What if I run a different size tire?
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im running 10.5 +22 all around. You can go with 255/35 up front and not rub after lowering it. 285/35 will not work when dropped, too much rubber. At stock height you can pretty much run whatever size tires you want up front.

right now im at 10.5 +12 with 235/35 and i pull/rub the **** out of my fenders when i turn. Then again im tucking rims up front lol.Lemme ***** up some pics to help you
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what are the advantages and disadvantaged to running a square setup vs staggered.
is just more under steer or is a square setup more for a track or really just driving preference
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Originally Posted by crsracing19
what are the advantages and disadvantaged to running a square setup vs staggered.
is just more under steer or is a square setup more for a track or really just driving preference
All else equal, more OVER steer.
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On the street, I'd say it's more for preference...
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Originally Posted by JPE22
im running 10.5 +22 all around. You can go with 255/35 up front and not rub after lowering it. 285/35 will not work when dropped, too much rubber. At stock height you can pretty much run whatever size tires you want up front.

right now im at 10.5 +12 with 235/35 and i pull/rub the **** out of my fenders when i turn. Then again im tucking rims up front lol.Lemme ***** up some pics to help you
man you're one of the people with a slammed ride i was hoping would answer! thanks for the input bro, looks like i'm gonna go ahead and pick up these wheels. what is your current suspension set up?

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Originally Posted by crsracing19
what are the advantages and disadvantaged to running a square setup vs staggered.
is just more under steer or is a square setup more for a track or really just driving preference
Handling and common sense went out the door a long time ago. Like drifting, this is a style forum.
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so which one offers better handling characteristics then
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@OP...
Many people run square set up for circuit driving because it makes the car more neutral with slight oversteer.

If it the offset was +30 you can mount a pair of 285's upfront.
+22's with 285's might cause some rubbing. You can either switch to 265 or get your negative camber set to -2.5 or something but this will give you a MASSIVE oversteer.

best option is to get 255 or 265's with some negative camber. Keep that pair of 285's as spares for your rear wheels.

a friend of mine has got an offset of +20 with 255's (stock camber setting) and the rubber is almost sticking out of the fender.

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i was going to order a pair of ekei nto3+m tomorrow 10.5 rear 9.5 front 18inch
what offset should i get so i wont have an issue with rubbing and what tire sizes should i get for both any help much appreciated
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depends on the rubber dimensions u are planning to mount.

search the wheel threads and check out some hot setups. It will give you a bunch of ideas.
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JPE22 lookin real sexy, Op its all personal preference like the guys are saying now square is better for the track but imo I like the way it feels on the street the car feels more nimble and steering input is faster, it makes an otherwise heavy car feel lighter.
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For square
More Nuetral Handling
Can rotate

For staggered
More understeer
looks better(Rear sits more flushly)
can not rotate

For NT03
i run 275(9.5 with +27) front and 295(10.5 with +30) Nitto Invo
No rubbing without fender rolling

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