Is Varrstoen Wheels Breaking Federal Law???
I wanted to create a thread which addresses a subject near and dear to all
of our hearts. Within the past 12 months Varrstoen has flooded the market with a replica of arguably the most cherished wheel in import tuning - the RAYS motorsport / VOLK racing te-37. Some questions I have been unable to answer: 1. Is Varsstoen breaking federal patent/trademark/copyright law? 2. Does Rays/Volk have the wherewithall to protect their own brand? 3. Do the car owners even care? My personal answers would be "yes" three-fold, however I am not an attorney, nor do I have any interest (financial) in Rays/Volk business. I do believe that Varrstoen has crossed the line legally and should be held fiscally responsible for the losses of brand value and sales due to their introduction of a mimic product marketed as a direct replica of an existing trademarked product. I actually called Brian at Mackin today to discuss this post before I made it, but then realized that we likely shared opinions (and he didn't answer). If Mackin decides to litigate against Varsstoen I would be happy to be deposed. This is a classic issue (think rota, ruff racing, etc) which has plagued the community for a while. I do not think one post will change the world, but the internets work in strange ways. Perhaps a petition? or some sort of simple protest of this product would suffice. I also believe that voicing opinions to Varsstoen's distributors is important. Comments? |
They sure do look nice dont they?
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Maybe the term of patent has expired...:dunno:
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lololol @ original first response and then ninja edit.
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^ Yea, felt I was being too dickish...Not like my opinion would change his...
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I don't mean to come off like a dick but cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it.
Hello, Rota been doing it for years. Even name branded wheels coppied each others. SSR Professor SP3 is a straight copy of HRE Comp 93. Sad to see things like this happen, but it's the style and look. Nothing's new in this game. It's a replica, not a fake. Bride has fakes all over, nothing changed. It looks the same doesn't mean it's 100% exact the same. 1mm off can be their evidence of the product being their design. At least, Varrstoen is legit enough to call it under their own name brand and not straight up faking the wheels as Volk TE37. /thread |
Originally Posted by brandon3434
(Post 8297818)
They sure do look nice dont they?
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btw, I'm happy there are knock offs so I can be a total dick, point and laugh at the other guy. Not really, I wouldn't do that :)
When people buy these, they know and aware that these are cheaper knock offs. And they agreed to it because it fits their budget. I don't see nothing's wrong with that. Replica > fake Replica = acceptable Just my 2.5 cents |
Wouldn't they need to actually patent the look of the wheel, not just the technical aspects like Apple did recently with their new Iphone/Itouch patent that covers the 'Ornamental Design'? Even then it'd be hard since like ATL said, another company can just make it slightly different (spokes thinner, wider, different offsets, different colors) and just point at that as differentiating it. Unfortunately Mackin didn't invent the wheel, or wheels with spokes, or wheels with lips, and pretty much none of the replicas are even forged or claim to be so it's a nonissue.
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Lets start a petition guys, against all who mock and disgrace VOLK RACING!!!
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Which came first? The WORK Meister or the SSR SP1? :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Lee R
(Post 8297898)
Which came first? The WORK Meister or the SSR SP1? :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by brandon3434
(Post 8297897)
Lets start a petition guys, against all who mock and disgrace VOLK RACING!!!
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This is so stupid. If you have no connection to Volk and have no financial stake in the company why the hell do you care?
I can only assume that you're one of those people that own an "original" set of wheels and feel totally angry, hurt and deeply saddened that some other unknown company could dare copy the wheels you cherish oh so dearly. To top it off sell them for less than half the price of the wheels that they copied therefore letting low life scumbags with shitty jobs and live in trailer parks buy wheels that look like yours. It must just be killing your rep. If this is the case, you really need to stop sucking on Really Cold Popsicles that cause brain freeze and realize that imitation it the highest form of flattery. Knock offs have and always will happen. Good luck trying to make any form of allegation that this company has dropped sales or damaged Volks name actually stick. While you're at it you may as well go after any company who has ever copied a design. konig rota ssk axis sport max xxr spun etc.. Good luck. |
Here's the million dollar question:
If Rays Engineering didn't care, why should we? |
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it's not like they're slapping a volk racing sticker on it and passing it off as the real thing.
Why aren't people this worked up over Shine and their products? Same principle. |
:icon17: @ this thread
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This is simple. OP has real 4000$ volks, and his bum hurts because others get a similar looking wheel for 1/4 the price...I wont lie, if I spent that kind of money, and others got something similar for wayyyyyy cheaper, I'd be bothered...
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NO body cares.
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