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chris05ppwZ Oct 29, 2010 01:35 PM

Rubbing or scraping, can't tell...
 
Okay so my car is lowered on Eibach coilovers, about 1.2 inches in the front, and 1.6 inches in the back. I have my fenders rolled and I'm running 19x8 +3 with a 225/40 and in the rear 19x8.5 +5 255/40 and when I drive it constantly sounds like I'm rubbing or scraping I can't tell. If I get a smaller tire with a stretch will I still do this? Anyone have these problems and have diagnosed them before? Give me your input...

davidv Oct 29, 2010 02:06 PM

You must find the location of the rub. The tire will show a rub ring. Also check the suspension for black rubber dust.

zaperroni Oct 29, 2010 02:34 PM

take some pics. possibly get an alignment/adjust the camber. i'm running similar offsets and tire sizes with no problems. (fenders rolled of course). How much are your fenders rolled?

AdvanZ33 Oct 29, 2010 03:24 PM

Your offset/wheel width isn't very aggresive so I don't think that's your problem. I think your sidewall/wheel width may be.

Spoiled Z Oct 29, 2010 03:26 PM

with the width of your wheel, offset and tires I dont see why you would rub. Im running 18x9 +5 18x10 +3 255/40 275/40 and Im hella flush can't even put a finger between the fender and tires and im not rubbing. But im -2f and -3r cambers. I also rolled my fenders.

AdvanZ33 Oct 29, 2010 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Spoiled Z (Post 8752749)
with the width of your wheel, offset and tires I dont see why you would rub. Im running 18x9 +5 18x10 +3 255/40 275/40 and Im hella flush can't even put a finger between the fender and tires and im not rubbing. But im -2f and -3r cambers. I also rolled my fenders.

Yeah but he is running a 40 sidewall on 19" wheels. I'm thinking these are G35 Rays with G35 tires on them (rears 10mm larger). Switch to a 35 sidewall OP.

chris05ppwZ Oct 29, 2010 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by AdvanZ33 (Post 8752755)
Yeah but he is running a 40 sidewall on 19" wheels. I'm thinking these are G35 Rays with G35 tires on them (rears 10mm larger). Switch to a 35 sidewall OP.

You are correct, I think I'm gonna get new rims for christmas, with a 19x9.5 +12 front and a 19x10.5 +12 rear, what tire sizes would you suggest for a mild stretch and no rubbing? By the way my camber is -1.2 in the rear and I can't think what the front is right now.

sdZ33 Oct 29, 2010 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by chris05ppwZ (Post 8752914)
You are correct, I think I'm gonna get new rims for christmas, with a 19x9.5 +12 front and a 19x10.5 +12 rear, what tire sizes would you suggest for a mild stretch and no rubbing? By the way my camber is -1.2 in the rear and I can't think what the front is right now.

225/35/19 fronts and 245/35/19 rears... If you want to stretch your tires the following brands stretch well: Nexen, Federal, General, Nankang, continental, and sometimes Falken... No, they are not the best tires but will get the job done if you want to stretch... I'm on a 19x10.5 -10 in the rear with a 245/35/19 tire... I don't know what my camber settings are yet because I haven't installed my camber arms and went for an alignment... When I lowered my car it cambered in enough to fit the wheel and tire with no rubbing issues at all...

BoomerZ33 Oct 30, 2010 06:59 AM

i've seen guys over here use falkens, nexens, and toyos for their stretched setups. 35 or maybe 30 sidewalls and you should be fine

chris05ppwZ Oct 30, 2010 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by sdZ33 (Post 8752960)
225/35/19 fronts and 245/35/19 rears... If you want to stretch your tires the following brands stretch well: Nexen, Federal, General, Nankang, continental, and sometimes Falken... No, they are not the best tires but will get the job done if you want to stretch... I'm on a 19x10.5 -10 in the rear with a 245/35/19 tire... I don't know what my camber settings are yet because I haven't installed my camber arms and went for an alignment... When I lowered my car it cambered in enough to fit the wheel and tire with no rubbing issues at all...

Alright thank you, if i put these rims on with a 25mm spacer would that be crazy? What offset would you suggest to be flush with the rear fenders, and a little negatve camber?

sdZ33 Oct 30, 2010 03:55 PM

Honestly, with those widths, you will be nice and flush with a 0 offset... Any more negative and you will have the wheels poke out past the fender... I like that look and it's more of a personal preference...

If you use a 25mm spacer on a +12, you will be at -13... If you don't want too much poke, I would go with a 15mm spacer... But like I said, it's up to you...

Are you maxed out on your coilovers? Can you go lower?

deftoneZ Oct 30, 2010 08:38 PM

If you're rubbing tire you'll smell it inside the car and you will see evidence of your destruction in the fender well and on the tire.

FilthyZ Oct 30, 2010 08:46 PM

Pictures of the sidewalls would help out. If the sidewalls are cutting grooves into the side of the tires your def hit the tire too much, if it looks like a bit of a scuff, then your fine.

scotts300 Nov 2, 2010 08:25 AM

You need more offset.

chris05ppwZ Nov 4, 2010 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by sdZ33 (Post 8754160)
Honestly, with those widths, you will be nice and flush with a 0 offset... Any more negative and you will have the wheels poke out past the fender... I like that look and it's more of a personal preference...

If you use a 25mm spacer on a +12, you will be at -13... If you don't want too much poke, I would go with a 15mm spacer... But like I said, it's up to you...

Are you maxed out on your coilovers? Can you go lower?

I love the stretch/poke look. I'm on Eibach coilovers maxed out in the rear, which is 1.6 inches and 1.2 inches up front. Also, in the near future i'm looking to buy stance gr+ coilovers because i'd like to go lower with the new setup.

jduet Nov 4, 2010 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by chris05ppwZ (Post 8752914)
You are correct, I think I'm gonna get new rims for christmas, with a 19x9.5 +12 front and a 19x10.5 +12 rear, what tire sizes would you suggest for a mild stretch and no rubbing? By the way my camber is -1.2 in the rear and I can't think what the front is right now.


I would go 235/255 for a mild stretch

(Pic of 255/35 Falkeen 452 on 10.5" rim)

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...7/CIMG4408.jpg

chris05ppwZ Nov 4, 2010 06:54 PM

Snapped a few pics to show my dilema...


http://i51.tinypic.com/r726md.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/669feh.jpg
Rubbing
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scotts300 Nov 5, 2010 08:31 AM

30mm spacers all around? Try a 25, or 5 less than whatever you have.

chris05ppwZ Nov 5, 2010 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by scotts300 (Post 8765087)
30mm spacers all around? Try a 25, or 5 less than whatever you have.

25mm all around. We'll see after Christmas with a -13 offset whats gonna happen.


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