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coop3422 04-05-2019 02:53 PM

Any idea if these BBS wheels would clear Brembos?
 
Hey folks,

I don't mind the stock 5 spokes on my 07 Z, but I wouldn't mind getting some new wheels. I've always been a fan of BBS, and there are some locally for sale. Specs are:

18” Forged BBS 114.3x5
Front 8.5x18 +23
Rear 9.5x18 +25

Fitment in terms of offset from my understanding should fit fine. I asked the guy what the model is, in case that comes into play for clearance. Here's a link: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details...dId=1424395783 .

Thoughts? The rear tires need replacing so I;ll be buying better rubber for them.

Thanks!

Spike100 04-05-2019 03:27 PM

You are fine with the wheels you describe. I will only mention that an offset of 15mm would be better.

MicVelo 04-05-2019 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by coop3422 (Post 10989483)
Hey folks,

I don't mind the stock 5 spokes on my 07 Z, but I wouldn't mind getting some new wheels. I've always been a fan of BBS, and there are some locally for sale. Specs are:

18” Forged BBS 114.3x5
Front 8.5x18 +23
Rear 9.5x18 +25

Fitment in terms of offset from my understanding should fit fine. I asked the guy what the model is, in case that comes into play for clearance. Here's a link: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details...dId=1424395783 .

Thoughts? The rear tires need replacing so I;ll be buying better rubber for them.

Thanks!

No idea on clearance, sorry. Historically, BBS aren't great on BBK clearance - surprising - but if its local, will the seller let you try one?

Either way, gorgeous wheels and nicely sized (and unless you're looking for flush,good offsets for slightly wider track over stock). Good luck!

Suggest you go with a 245/40F and 275/40R

coop3422 04-05-2019 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Spike100 (Post 10989490)
You are fine with the wheels you describe. I will only mention that an offset of 15mm would be better.

Fine in the sense they'll clear Brembos? Out of curiosity, what is it that lets you know? Just curious what I should be looking for. Thanks!


Originally Posted by MicVelo (Post 10989493)
No idea on clearance, sorry. Historically, BBS aren't great on BBK clearance - surprising - but if its local, will the seller let you try one?

Either way, gorgeous wheels and nicely sized (and unless you're looking for flush,good offsets for slightly wider track over stock). Good luck!

Suggest you go with a 245/40F and 275/40R

I would have liked a little lower offsset for a nicer look, but these seem to be quality wheels. Surprised BBS has issues with BBK, I would think a company like theirs would be friendly to things like that. Those were the tire sizes I had in mind. At stock height, I shouldn't have to worry about any rubbing at those widths or offsets?

Thanks folks!

MicVelo 04-05-2019 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by coop3422 (Post 10989496)
Fine in the sense they'll clear Brembos? Out of curiosity, what is it that lets you know? Just curious what I should be looking for. Thanks!

I would have liked a little lower offsset for a nicer look, but these seem to be quality wheels. Surprised BBS has issues with BBK, I would think a company like theirs would be friendly to things like that. Those were the tire sizes I had in mind. At stock height, I shouldn't have to worry about any rubbing at those widths or offsets?


Thanks folks!

BBS makes a lot of wheels for race, aftermarket, OEM. They design wheels around BBKs all the time, however, older style BBS wheels carry over from the days of "the basket weave wheel that made them famous" like the ones you are considering. The original BBS designs didn't have to contend with wide or long 4-6 piston calipers for street cars, that didn't come along until much later in their lineage. Based on that premise, original BBS Mahle wheels had something of a flat backplane versus what people today are calling "concave designs" that allow for bigger brake sets.

In addition, BBS wheels typically had (maybe still have) more material on the backside where the spokes meet the wheel rim. That interfered with BBKs as well. WIth the advent of the "reverse curve" (concave design) made for popular FWD cars, their designs finally evolved. BUT, mostly for European fitments and they designed them around Euro brakes, which are typically a bit slimmer than that found elsewhere. Heck, the 8-pot Brembos on my Benz are a full 3/4" narrower than the Brembos or Akebonos on either of my NIsmos.

Not saying the ones you're looking at have the old traits but that's the historical look at BBS wheels for 5x114.3 applications. There's not a lot of them as compared to for Euro cars.

S'far as your wanting more aggressive fit... spacers. Easy fix. As I always say, "I don't like 'em but I use them."

coop3422 04-06-2019 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by MicVelo (Post 10989503)
BBS makes a lot of wheels for race, aftermarket, OEM. They design wheels around BBKs all the time, however, older style BBS wheels carry over from the days of "the basket weave wheel that made them famous" like the ones you are considering. The original BBS designs didn't have to contend with wide or long 4-6 piston calipers for street cars, that didn't come along until much later in their lineage. Based on that premise, original BBS Mahle wheels had something of a flat backplane versus what people today are calling "concave designs" that allow for bigger brake sets.

In addition, BBS wheels typically had (maybe still have) more material on the backside where the spokes meet the wheel rim. That interfered with BBKs as well. WIth the advent of the "reverse curve" (concave design) made for popular FWD cars, their designs finally evolved. BUT, mostly for European fitments and they designed them around Euro brakes, which are typically a bit slimmer than that found elsewhere. Heck, the 8-pot Brembos on my Benz are a full 3/4" narrower than the Brembos or Akebonos on either of my NIsmos.

Not saying the ones you're looking at have the old traits but that's the historical look at BBS wheels for 5x114.3 applications. There's not a lot of them as compared to for Euro cars.

S'far as your wanting more aggressive fit... spacers. Easy fix. As I always say, "I don't like 'em but I use them."

Amazing, detailed info here, thanks a lot. The guy got back to me, they are BBS RGR wheels, if that makes any difference. I'll do some reading later today, although I'm not sure what I plan to do yet. Appreciate the info though!

mr. sparco 04-06-2019 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Spike100 (Post 10989490)
You are fine with the wheels you describe. I will only mention that an offset of 15mm would be better.

Sizing can be deceiving, a "standard" 350z sized wheel does not mean it will clear BBK. Wheel "disc" comes in standard, high, med, low depending on the design. High disc wheels are meant for max clearance for BBKs, the trade off is usually aesthetics. Low disc is meant for max lip where the face/spokes is pushed as far back as possible with limited brake clearance.

jhc 04-06-2019 05:15 PM

Nothing personal, not a fan of that wheel set. I did have the "Lacy/Mesh" BBS's on my Mitsu bitd without any problems whatsoever. When I bought this 350, I searched for BBS's and found there's only one authorized distributor (Tire Rack, mb?) for North America. Ultimately went with Hyper Silver RPF01's (18") for $1200 plus tires. GL!

coop3422 04-07-2019 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by jhc (Post 10989545)
Nothing personal, not a fan of that wheel set. I did have the "Lacy/Mesh" BBS's on my Mitsu bitd without any problems whatsoever. When I bought this 350, I searched for BBS's and found there's only one authorized distributor (Tire Rack, mb?) for North America. Ultimately went with Hyper Silver RPF01's (18") for $1200 plus tires. GL!

That's a great price for RPF01's. Almost bought a set of those for my S2000 back in the day. In Canada, buying new wheels and tires is silly expensive so I'm more sticking to used options which really limits what's out there.

jhc 04-08-2019 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by coop3422 (Post 10989591)
That's a great price for RPF01's. Almost bought a set of those for my S2000 back in the day. In Canada, buying new wheels and tires is silly expensive so I'm more sticking to used options which really limits what's out there.

That was in US $ about 5 yrs ago. And the driver front Brembo had to be dremmeled ~ 2mm, the others were fine. Gl!

No_name 04-12-2019 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by jhc (Post 10989545)
"...BBS's and found there's only one authorized distributor...for North America."

Couple years back, went straight to BBS US (GA), had "a few telecons with the guys in the back room that knew their ****" regarding RIA's and they facilitated my order post-haste. Was a good experience, on price-point and zero hassle. European engineering, made in Japan, kick ass wheel-set. I'm probably one of only three guys in the US market running BBS on a Z these days, they're excellent. ;)

jhc 04-12-2019 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by No_name (Post 10990086)
Couple years back, went straight to BBS US (GA), had "a few telecons with the guys in the back room that knew their ****" regarding RIA's and they facilitated my order post-haste. Was a good experience, on price-point and zero hassle. European engineering, made in Japan, kick ass wheel-set. I'm probably one of only three guys in the US market running BBS on a Z these days, they're excellent. ;)

Great story, couldn't agree more, very well made wheels. IIRC I put about 45k on mine with no problems. Post-up a pic!

No_name 04-15-2019 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by jhc (Post 10990094)
Post-up a pic!

No, all I have is the same boring s*** you fellas have already seen. Already posted, nothing new to share! ;)


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