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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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I searched the forum on this topic and could not come up with a conclusive answer. Are stock tires all-season? Can I drive it in snow or I have to change tires? What is the "official" answer?

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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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no, you will die in the snow with stock tires.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by vinnay
no, you will die in the snow with stock tires.
very true...

i had trouble getting out of my apartment complex when it was subzero weather because the tires were as hard as rock...it took me 2-3 minutes to travel 100 or so feet...traction was worse with snow.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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for god's sake man, don't do it.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 01:06 AM
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There are two things that prevent the stock tires from working well in the snow, or even when the temperature gets near freezing:

1) The tread pattern is not designed for snow. They will not have any worthwhile grip.

2) The rubber compound is a summer, high performance compound. This means the rubber will actually begin to harden when the temperatures get near freezing, make the tires grip less and less. (Zenvy described this up above.)

If you plan to travel in the snow on any regular basis, you should seriously considering picking up a cheap set winter rims, and put some proper snow/winter tires on them. Having a second set of rims means you won't have to have different tires mounted back and forth on your good rims when the seasons changed. With a second set of rims, you can just unbolt the summer rims, and bolt on the winter rims.

Blizzak makes pretty much the best snow tires around. Awesome tread patterns that grip like crazy in the snow, and a proper rubber compound that won't harden up in freezing temperatures.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 05:14 AM
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absolutely no traction in snow...NONE.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 06:05 AM
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Just to test ti last year, I pulled out of the driveway to drive up and down my road only. I went about 20 feet.

I COULD NOT GET MY CAR BACK INTO THE (FLAT) DRIVEWAY WITHOUT HELP.

Don't even try it.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by vinnay
no, you will die in the snow with stock tires.
Lol so true. Let me tell ya a story youngens I missed driving my Z so i decided to take it out for a drive. ( I dont have a garage) So I removed all the snow got it all purty engine is warmed up so now to drive out of the alley. I go back and forth and im kinda moving , go back shovel snow go forth shovel snow. I did this quite a few times and one of the times I was reversing and got stuck so i decided to get out and shovel some snow from underneath the tires . I get to the rear of the car and WTF what do I see my wheels are spinning and I didnt have spinners I left the car in reverse out by mistake going back and forth a lot so the moral of the story is those tires realy realy realy realy suck dont drive on them in winter.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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for god's sake man, don't do it.
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I picked up my car in early april of this year. A week later we had a freak snowstorm. I wouldn't go past 20mph... the back end kept stepping out even in a straight line... VERY scary!

Putting my blizzaks on tonight for this winter...
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The Z is VERY bad in the snow. The rear end loves to try and take the lead.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by vie2233hil
Sup,

I searched the forum on this topic and could not come up with a conclusive answer. Are stock tires all-season? Can I drive it in snow or I have to change tires? What is the "official" answer?

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We could be ditch buddies this winter - but I decided to put on some Blizzak LM22 tires. Don't drive in winter with the stock tires!!

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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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I concur with everyone else here. Stock tires in winter cold = giant hockey pucks with no traction. If u plan on driving it during all 4 seasons, the Blizzaks shall set you free
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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BLIZZAKS BABY !!!!!!
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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Since 99% of people are telling you don't do it, I say be adventurous and do it.






























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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by vie2233hil
Sup,

I searched the forum on this topic and could not come up with a conclusive answer. Are stock tires all-season? Can I drive it in snow or I have to change tires? What is the "official" answer?

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I had my Z for 3 days, there was a trace of snow on the ground, and I almost diched the car. The tires are SUMMER ONLY!
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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I'ts really embarrassing to have a 1994 FWD Sh*tbox fly by you as you're trying to slalom up the hill. Z's with stock tires weren't made for snow.
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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has anyone here used the Michelin Pilot all season tires, and if so, how were they in the cold and snow?
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by kovalf
I'ts really embarrassing to have a 1994 FWD Sh*tbox fly by you as you're trying to slalom up the hill. Z's with stock tires weren't made for snow.
I wouldn't say it's embarrassing. Put summer tires on any car and they are going to be awful in the snow. On that note, I would be very disappointed in Nissan if they fitted the Z with some silly all season tires from the factory.
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by tommym
has anyone here used the Michelin Pilot all season tires, and if so, how were they in the cold and snow?
There is an important distinction between cold and snow. When it comes to cold weather (with no snow), the rubber compound is the important part. You need a compound that won't harden (and thus lose traction) when it gets cold. But in the snow, tread pattern is most important (although rubber compound still plays a part).

If you are looking for a 2nd set of tires to be used in the snow, you really should consider tires made specifically for winter and snow as opposed to all season tires. One of the big problems with all seaon tires is that they try to compromise. They try to be decent summer tires (which reduces their winter effectiveness), and also try to be decent winter tires (which reduces their summer effectiveness).

If you can only have 1 set of tires to be used year round (hot summers and cold/snowy winters), then a set of all seasons might be your best bet. But if you can have 2 different sets of wheels/tires, then get tires which are geared specificially for each season with no compromises.
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