Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
(Post 8962708)
:icon18: All these statements suggesting that a higher performance Z with ~400hp would infringe on the GT-R are absolutely silly.:rofl: That's like asserting that a Camaro SS would be detrimental to the Z06 Vette. Hell... instead Chevy seems to be moving forward with a 556 horsepower supercharged Z28 model.
Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
(Post 8962708)
Read up on the 2012 GT-R... 530 horsepower, 0-60 times consistently at 3.0 seconds with a best of 2.886 seconds, and a price increase to $90K.
Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
(Post 8962708)
Anyone who thinks a $40K Z with a 400 horsepower V8 would be too competitive with the new GT-R... is smoking CRACK!!!:icon14: Other car manufacturers have model lines that include models in both the 400 and 500 horsepower range. It's ridiculous to say that Nissan can't or shouldn't do the same... especially with such apples to oranges differences between the Z and the GT-R.
But thats just my :twocents:. |
Future Z will probably be a hybrid and very much not like a Z.
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Originally Posted by Zazz93
(Post 8965429)
If they hadn't made it a pig it would have.
0-60 is only one side of the picture. You know what I agree they would be as different as apples and oranges but if you were hungry and only had $6 where the apple cost $5 and the orange was $2... that doesn't influence you? But thats just my :twocents:. So given the improvements (and price increase) on the 2012 GT-R, as well as putting things in perspective relative to other manufacturers' model lineups... I still think it's silly to say that a 400 horsepower Z would be too competitive with the GT-R and would infringe on the GT-R's market segment. |
Originally Posted by Shamu
(Post 8965266)
Thats nice still aint happening. Me thinks someone else has been sipping the bong water to think an entry level Japanese sports car would be sporting a lightweight V8. 370Z still isnt a pony car. Youre going see turbos or electic assist before you see extra cylinders. Perhaps Infiniti might have a lazy G coupe with a V8 but it doesnt make sense to put V8 in entry level car like the Z.
However, my inside source hasn't been wrong yet.:icon38: I knew details about the Infiniti EX, 2nd gen FX, 3rd gen M and M56 model, as well as the 370Z long before any accurate info was posted on the forums about them. |
Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
(Post 8962708)
:icon18: All these statements suggesting that a higher performance Z with ~400hp would infringe on the GT-R are absolutely silly.:rofl: That's like asserting that a Camaro SS would be detrimental to the Z06 Vette. Hell... instead Chevy seems to be moving forward with a 556 horsepower supercharged Z28 model.
Read up on the 2012 GT-R... 530 horsepower, 0-60 times consistently at 3.0 seconds with a best of 2.886 seconds, and a price increase to $90K. Anyone who thinks a $40K Z with a 400 horsepower V8 would be too competitive with the new GT-R... is smoking CRACK!!!:icon14: Other car manufacturers have model lines that include models in both the 400 and 500 horsepower range. It's ridiculous to say that Nissan can't or shouldn't do the same... especially with such apples to oranges differences between the Z and the GT-R. 400HP doesn't seem far fetched for a new Z car. V8 ---hmm this doesn't seem so likely given that most car manufacturers have scrapped plans for more v8s and are going smaller displacement with FI. 40k is what happened to the last Z so I hope that isn't the direction. Unless there is the new NA Z or FI Z for the top end that splits the difference between the GTR and the base Z. Something need to play in the space of the Toyota FT-86 |
One of the most popular and recognized Japanese sports cars ever is Nissan’s Z car, and from what we’ve uncovered about the next-generation Z, Nissan is fully aware that this species must evolve if it intends to stay on top of the competition. Part of that evolution may include hybrid power as automakers are caught in the green wave of environmental responsibility that has become a priority.
Though nothing definite has been decided about the next Z, Nissan is experimenting with a number of different power options as you read this. Naturally, one approach on the table is a hybrid powertrain. If the next Z goes that way, it will most likely come in the form of the system currently in the Infiniti M Hybrid, which couples a 3.5-liter V-6 gasoline engine (known as the VQ35DE) with an electric motor. In the M Hybrid, the setup produces 360 bhp and about 450 lb.-ft. of torque, more than enough punch for a midpriced sports car. In the next-generation Z, fuel economy should be in the neighborhood of 30 mpg. There are rumors of a test mule of the Z with the M Hybrid’s powertrain running around the U.S. Another option that Nissan is strongly considering is a diesel engine. With Nissan’s recently announced cooperation with Daimler, it has the option of putting one of Mercedes-Benz’s BlueTEC engines under the hood. The most likely candidate would be the 3.0-liter turbodiesel that’s currently in the Mercedes-Benz GL, or something a little bigger. There’s also the chance that Nissan will offer the next-generation Z, which should hit dealerships in 2013, with a number of powertrain choices that include hybrid, diesel and gasoline-only versions. There’s no word on what the car would cost just yet, but expect the price to increase slightly, especially if the Japanese yen stays at its current level, and the car continues to be built in Japan. http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-cars/2013-nissan-z http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-cars/2013-nissan-z |
Originally Posted by Shamu
(Post 8965266)
Thats nice still aint happening. Me thinks someone else has been sipping the bong water to think an entry level Japanese sports car would be sporting a lightweight V8. 370Z still isnt a pony car. Youre going see turbos or electic assist before you see extra cylinders. Perhaps Infiniti might have a lazy G coupe with a V8 but it doesnt make sense to put V8 in entry level car like the Z.
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Originally Posted by zipgun
(Post 8973351)
And lot of people have said the same crap about not having turbos in an M3..:rolleyes: But lookie what the next M3 will be sporting.. Until it's official anything can happen.
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is this thread talking about a new car like the 350z - 370 jump?
or a 03-06 DE to a 07-08 HR jump anyways since 370z came out 2009, im looking to buy a nismo, but i dont want to if next year or so 2012-13 they come out with a "HR" version with the nismo haveing 370 HP or something should i wait? or jump the gun when i graduate |
its the 370Z to the next model jump..
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Yes...it's about what comes after the 370Z.
In other news, it looks like Nissan took a bad hit from the earthquake/tsunami. I hope the country gets its feet on the ground soon. |
My next car will hopefully be a blue, mid life cycle model, next gen Z :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by Zazz93
(Post 8973796)
Are you talking about the new M1...
On the topic of what is next, the only real evidence we have seen so far is direct injection. The VQ3.7L has been seen with it and even announced the G37 would get it by late 2012, which probably means the 370z will get it at some point also. |
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