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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Hello, curious if it is absolutely necessary to pull the motor when installing an APS TT. My buddy may be doing the install with me if its possible to do without a lift.

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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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makes it a lot easier
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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wow, that'd be some job to do with out pullin the engine..
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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pretty difficult then? tryin to save myself 3k in labor... might as well spend the money on tools that I can keep
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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jesus lord jinin i know your excited about your install and aps tt but do you really have to make a thread about everything? there is a search function.. along with INSTRUCTIONS in the kit and you can also contact the vendor you purchased it from..

just trying to help.. and yes pull the motor
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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sorry i did attempt a search. I never post without searching. I swear im searching disabled because 9 times out of 10 i cant find anything.
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yeah the search function does suck..

if you can get a place with a lift and pull the engine.. other than that the only part were you might run into problems is the fuel pump. its pretty straight forward and complete and if you know your way around cars you can do it with a few buddy's and a case of beer
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Hmmmm he has a cherry picker... if that would do the trick... major PITA tho..

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I did it without hte motor pulled, but after all was said and done, it probably would have saved 5 of the 32 hours it took to install.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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really... 32 hours eh, any details I should know about doing it without the motor pulled? I dont really mind, I dont have access to a lift so i have no other choice.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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http://exit3.net/g35pics/view_album....umName=album09

heres some pics of my install.. tried to do it without pulling the motor and then finally pulled it. hope that helps
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Originally Posted by jining
pretty difficult then? tryin to save myself 3k in labor... might as well spend the money on tools that I can keep
It won't be 3k.. more like 1800~2100ish. straight install with no tune.
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Originally Posted by jining
pretty difficult then? tryin to save myself 3k in labor... might as well spend the money on tools that I can keep

You can take or leave my advise.

I have done the install myself on jackstands in my garage with the motor still installed. It took somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-35 hrs with two sets of hands working for most of those hrs. It can be done.

^that said, I would most definitely pay the closer to 2500 bucks, not $3K, to have the kit installed by a professional. it is not something I will tackle again. I had no major issues with my install, and it was completed in a reasonable amount of time.

I can tell you from your posts that his job is WAY above your head. Unless your friend is a mechanical wiz, you are just asking for trouble by doing a self install. There is a chance that you could do it with great success, but my instincts tell me that just won't be the case. There are almost an infinite number of places that are potential issues when self installing. You will just be biting off way more than you can chew if you attempt this yourself.

Like I have said in a previous thread of yours, a little time away form the net/forums will do you plenty of good. Download and print out the install instructions and read through them a half dozen times untill you know procedure without the need for the paper.
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hey does anyone know if i can install a pop charger on my twin turbo?? if so, what brand is best?
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Weqster
hey does anyone know if i can install a pop charger on my twin turbo?? if so, what brand is best?

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Originally Posted by Weqster
hey does anyone know if i can install a pop charger on my twin turbo?? if so, what brand is best?
That's quoteABLE!
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Originally Posted by Zivman
You can take or leave my advise.

I have done the install myself on jackstands in my garage with the motor still installed. It took somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-35 hrs with two sets of hands working for most of those hrs. It can be done.

^that said, I would most definitely pay the closer to 2500 bucks, not $3K, to have the kit installed by a professional. it is not something I will tackle again. I had no major issues with my install, and it was completed in a reasonable amount of time.

I can tell you from your posts that his job is WAY above your head. Unless your friend is a mechanical wiz, you are just asking for trouble by doing a self install. There is a chance that you could do it with great success, but my instincts tell me that just won't be the case. There are almost an infinite number of places that are potential issues when self installing. You will just be biting off way more than you can chew if you attempt this yourself.

Like I have said in a previous thread of yours, a little time away form the net/forums will do you plenty of good. Download and print out the install instructions and read through them a half dozen times untill you know procedure without the need for the paper.
+1 ^^ Thats some good advice and I would also like to add that after you go FI, you better have some extra $$$ in case something goes wrong.I don't know your financial situation, but from what I have read in your posts, it sounds like extra $$$ is going to be tough to come by.
Good Luck.....
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:32 AM
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Damn im getting bashed left and right lol! No $$$ lol.. No worries I have money, just trying to maintain a budget.

Thanks for the advice. Ive been reading through the APS instructions, looks like a major PITA lol... my buddy is pretty damn good but I dont know if he wants to spend 30 hours
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No bashing intended....going FI is a whole new game
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<----- waits for a "I blew my motor" thread from jining.

No disrespect, but I can see it coming. I'd take Zivman's advice and pay for a professional intsall and have your car dyno tuned as well. Don't be a penny wise a dollar foolish. Good luck.

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