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AAAA 02-09-2003 02:51 PM

Critics Wanted: Audio system plan
 
This is my plan. Wada ya think?
I had an Audio map, but the prompt telss me the files too big, and i dont know how to make it smaller?!?

N E ways heres the list

HU
Sony WX-7700MDX

Speakers
F – JL XR650-Csi Components
R– JL VR650-CX Coaxial

Amps
JL 300/4
JL 500/1

Subs
3 JL 10W6

Love to include tha map, but ...:confused:

Thanks for your help,
A

maximadave 02-09-2003 03:14 PM

Looks good. I would run a bigger amp for your subs. Your W6's handle 300w rms each x 3 = 900 watts minimum rms you should go with. Look into the JL 1000/1. I ran this to 3 W6v2 in a G35 coupe last week and it rocked!

Dave

WhiZ 02-09-2003 08:43 PM

I understand that 3 subwoofers would be hot for a show car. Is that what you're creating? If so, you better get major amp power. If you are just showing off that you have 3 subwoofers, well, okay. I'm not impressed.

Subwoofers are the cheapest part of a system. Amps, capacitors, line drivers, etc, -that is where you get my respect. It shows you are tuning your system and are maximizing your sound quality.

You're not just trying to wake up the neighbors at night are you?

By the way, I have the WX7700 and it is very nice. Even with a fm converter, it is not convenient for radio FM or AM. It has an aux input for XM, DVD, and other sources and of course the bus for any Sony CD changer.

jeffrey 02-09-2003 10:29 PM

Really depends on which version of the W6's he puts in there.

The ver 2's require (optimum) of 300w /ea continuous. So yes, 900w was right on the nose.

If he got a hold of 1st gen W6's, 500w is plenty.

Now that's assuming he runs it at 4ohms, if that's the JL amp I'm thinking of, it's good down to 1.5oms, which would yield more than enough power.

MonkeyBoy 02-09-2003 10:38 PM

JL Amps have a variable voltage rail, so wiring your subs down to 1.5 won't do anything to increase the power to each sub. Still, I agree. Go with the 1000/1 if you can get it. Also, don't forget a cap in that system! :icon4:

AAAA 02-10-2003 05:26 AM

I like waking the neighbors, thats the plan;) :D

2k3silver350z 02-10-2003 06:26 AM


Originally posted by AAAA
I like waking the neighbors, thats the plan;) :D
you will need more than the 300/4 to be able to over power the subs then.

i had a the exact setup in my rsx-s except with a single 12w7. i could never get the sub to play to it's full potential because the bass would drown out the music. so i upgraded too 2 300/2's. i have one left over now as i got rid of my old car. if you are intrested i would sell pretty cheaply and it was only used for 2 months.

onecoolee 02-10-2003 08:23 AM

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Nice setup...

I too use the JL Audio XR-650CSi's in front and the VR650-cx's in back--they sound GREAT!

I don't need 3 10's, so I am working on a sealed/fiberglassed enclosure for 1 in a stealth locaion behind the left rear wheel well. I may try to sneak a 10W7 in there, if I have enough cash, and enough mounting depth.

I have heard alot of great things about the JL amps, but don't have any personal experience with them. I would upgrade to the 1000/1 versus the 500/1, the W6's will need some power. You also may want to consider using 2 Gauge power wire, especially if you choose to do a show vehicle. The JL Audio 1000/1 into a 1 ohm bridged laod will require ALOT of current. Anyways, I have always preferred Phoenix Gold for amplifiers, and I used 2 in my system along with a Pioneer Premier Head unit...

See a pic below of my rack, and a comprehensive list of components at the end...pics of my sub enclosure will follow soon.

Good luck with your setup.

AAAA 02-12-2003 01:38 PM

so wait, can i run 2 10W6v2 out of a 500/1? if i cant, is there any other amp i can run to it except a 1000/1

jeffrey 02-12-2003 01:42 PM

You should be fine with 2.

Optimum is 300w, so you'll be slightly under, but I don't think you'll notice really. That is unless you listen to your music as loud as it goes all the time. ;)

AAAA 02-12-2003 01:53 PM

so, would a 300/2 be better? [than a 500/1 for 2 10w6v2's]

jeffrey 02-12-2003 02:01 PM

No, because bridged that's still 300w.

If you look at this chart, you'll see they rate 300w per sub as optimal for a 10W6v2. I think you'll be ok with 250w per sub personally, but of course, especially with subs, you are better off over powered than under powered.

Unless you listen to your stereo 24/7 at full-tilt, I think you'll be fine.

2k3silver350z 02-12-2003 02:46 PM


Originally posted by AAAA
so, would a 300/2 be better? [than a 500/1 for 2 10w6v2's]

you should use the 300/2 to run your highs, that is if you go through with three 10's. they would drown out the 300/4. trust me i had a 12w7 being ran by a 1000/1 and i couldn't hear the highs as well as i could the sub when i had a 300/4 on them so i changed up to two 300/2's and it sounded great. this was on my old car BTW.

AAAA 02-12-2003 04:58 PM

hahah 2k3silver350Z , you know y im askin....;) . The thing about the 300/2 amp is i have to buy another for my rear speakers (dont plan on taking them out like some on this forum)

2k3silver350z 02-12-2003 09:27 PM


Originally posted by AAAA
hahah 2k3silver350Z , you know y im askin....;) . The thing about the 300/2 amp is i have to buy another for my rear speakers (dont plan on taking them out like some on this forum)
actually, if you don't care about fading abilities you could run the 300/2 to all the speakers. i just want to caution you and let you know before hand, it's cheaper to buy two amps now than to get one and decide later on that you need 2 more.

AAAA 02-13-2003 06:47 AM

gooooooood point

2k3silver350z 02-13-2003 09:13 AM

had you thought about stepping up the the xr 3 ways? the sensitivity is 1db higher than the 2 ways and the same for the coax's. this will make your sound stage in front even with a 2 channel amp running everything in the car.

AAAA 02-13-2003 03:47 PM

hmmm might have to rethink my design....

2k3silver350z 02-13-2003 05:28 PM

well if you are dead set on JL products and want a huge amount of bass i have a pretty good setup that would sound really killer.

do the three ways in the front.
the seperates in the back
get a 300/2 or two 300/2's
get 1 12w7
get 1 1000/1

that would be more than enough to do whatever you wanted. the 12w7 could make you deaf if you really wanted it too.

AAAA 02-14-2003 06:04 AM

see, thats what i wanted .... the 1000/1, the W7 ... but the thing is that, plus two 300/2 amps are way more than my initaial plan, in fact the difference would cover my installation (done @ a shop) and wires .... the set up is more than pimp .... MORE than pimp, but i dont think i can afford it ...


Just to humor me (to be honest, b/c i like this set up b/c its so flexable to swap things out or add things in ;) its still being considered) where would you put the sub? would it be louder than 2 10w6v2's? do i need a 1000/1, or could i use 1 500/1 to that 1 12w7??

thanks for all the help on brainstorming....
A


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