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Clon3 06-21-2011 09:44 PM

Is it possible to ride clutch in neutral?
 
Guys, I had a debate with my co-worker today and I just want to make sure I am not talking outta my ass.

This may sound like a dumb question but say if you are in neutral (shifter in Neutral), and you depress the clutch halfway right at friction point. Is this considered riding/slipping the clutch?

Logically, it doesn't make sense that it would be riding the clutch since you are not in gear with a halfway depressed clutch. But my coworker said there is still some friction/heat being generated from a half depressed clutch even if your shifter is in neutral.

Also, what is the difference between revving with clutch out vs revving with clutch fully depressed? Same thing? And if you rev the **** outta your car with clutch out halfway, would this burn up your clutch even if your not in gear (shifter in neutral)?

Thought I'd ask the experts....

Thanks!

winchman 06-22-2011 12:55 AM

You cannot damage the clutch itself with the transmission in neutral, but you'll wear the throwout bearing unnecessarily.

davidv 06-22-2011 04:27 AM

Maybe this is not a “ride or no ride” question. With the transmission in neutral, you have no drive train load for the motor to turn. While engaging and disengaging the clutch, the friction plate must still grab the flywheel. There is just no tires on the road that you are forcing the motor to turn. And no 3,300 load that the engine must move.

http://wilcap.com/cad-350mt%20diagram.JPEG
Above: Engaging-disengaging the clutch separates the drive train at the flywheel-friction plate.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/.../lg_rwd-lg.jpg
Above: With the transmission in neutral you are separating the drive train at the transmission-drive shaft.

doshoru 06-22-2011 03:36 PM

As the others have stated, you're not riding the "clutch" meaning...the clutch plate itself....but you are riding the clutch "pedal"....which is really just unnecessarily stressing the throwout bearing.

So....technically.....you're both kind of right. You're riding the clutch "system" (or part of it), but not the actual clutch itself. "Riding the clutch" has come to mean "keeping the clutch pedal depressed" and not so much "slipping the clutch" in common nomenclature. Sad, I know.

davidv 07-06-2011 06:57 PM

Always happy to help. If you have other questions please do not hesitate to waste my time.


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