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Slammed350zz 10-02-2015 07:23 AM

Help! Car won't start or crank
 
Hey guys so I can't figure out why my 2003 350z won't start or crank, first thought it was the battery so I went and got it tested at orielly and they said the battery tested low but they charged it up and tested it and said it was good, came home and still nothing, then I went about replacing the clutch safety switch thinking it was that but still nothing, I replaced my alternator 6 months ago so it can't be my alternator and I also thought it had to do with the security system and i don't think its that either because the blinking light goes away as soon as I put the car in the on position, I also checked all my fuses under the dash and in the engine bay next to the battery and all fuses are good, also it's not my fuel pump either because I can hear my fuel pump prime when I turn the key in the on position. idk what it could be at this point! And if this helps I had noticed for a few days the car would kinda lag before starting like it would sound like it would have trouble starting but it would start up so I'm not sure if that's related but I didn't think anything of it until now. Please help!

travlee 10-02-2015 07:59 AM

this is how i picture you typing this....

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Slammed350zz 10-02-2015 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by travlee (Post 10659742)
this is how i picture you typing this....

https://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFil...2/84752649.gif

Lol

jhc 10-02-2015 08:46 AM

Perhaps all the electric connections should be looked at, fuses also.

dboyzalter 10-02-2015 08:56 AM

Time for a new starter... But just to be sure push start that bad boy.

dboyzalter 10-02-2015 08:59 AM

You could also have someone tap on it (the starter) while you try starting it. Make sure the person in the car doesnt run you over. Chalk the wheels. On second thought just push start it.

Syner 10-02-2015 09:44 AM

Dirty cables? You could be getting enough power to prime/light, but it might not be getting enough to turn.

Clean the posts and cables: sand, then wash with warm water and baking soda and try again.

Try cheap fixes before throwing parts at it.

PP08HR 10-02-2015 11:42 AM

If it starts with a jump then its the battery.


Id you get a single clicking noise when started, probably a starter. Rapid clicking noise usually a battery.

Syner 10-02-2015 11:43 AM

You can get a single click with dirty contacts too.

PP08HR 10-02-2015 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Syner (Post 10659933)
You can get a single click with dirty contacts too.

True dat!

dboyzalter 10-02-2015 12:42 PM

My money is on the starter...

cincysilvias14 10-04-2015 11:41 AM

what about your body control module? when you go to start the car does the security light stay on? I had a key go south on me and the bcm wouldn't let that key start the car. had to cut a new one for like 45 bucks from nissan

nizmo_0385 10-04-2015 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by cincysilvias14 (Post 10660532)
what about your body control module? when you go to start the car does the security light stay on? I had a key go south on me and the bcm wouldn't let that key start the car. had to cut a new one for like 45 bucks from nissan

Good thinking

padilla03z 10-04-2015 12:01 PM

i got an easy way to not waste money, pull the starter out and bench test it.

dcains 10-04-2015 05:16 PM

sub'd

jhc 10-05-2015 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by padilla03z (Post 10660539)
i got an easy way to not waste money, pull the starter out and bench test it.

Thank you. We tend to overthink things. Solenoid much?

Khris Chong 10-24-2015 03:11 PM

Having the same problem!!!! Frustrating! Replaced battery, tested starter, checked the fuses. Now the fuses under the dash, the "start signal" 10a fuse didn't light up with a test light. thought it might have been a bad fuse. replaced the fuse. . . .still no light. Took the clutch safety switch off. . .took it apart, and cleaned the contacts. Reinstalled. I am running out of ideas. :dunno:

PP08HR 10-24-2015 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Khris Chong (Post 10669845)
Having the same problem!!!! Frustrating! Replaced battery, tested starter, checked the fuses. Now the fuses under the dash, the "start signal" 10a fuse didn't light up with a test light. thought it might have been a bad fuse. replaced the fuse. . . .still no light. Took the clutch safety switch off. . .took it apart, and cleaned the contacts. Reinstalled. I am running out of ideas. :dunno:

If you bought the vehicle used make sure there is not an aftermarket alarm installed. Sometimes they can be activated after a battery dies and there may be a need to disable it.

dboyzalter 10-24-2015 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by PP08HR (Post 10669893)
If you bought the vehicle used make sure there is not an aftermarket alarm installed. Sometimes they can be activated after a battery dies and there may be a need to disable it.

Good advice. You also might want to try an alternative key. Sometimes when you get a used car some of the keys are not programmed to start the car. Just throwing that out there. All this great technology isnt always so great. If it has an aftermarket alarm look under the dash for the bypass switch. It probably doesn't have one but you might get lucky... If it did you pretty much just push it and hold it while you start the car... Aftermarket alarms really blow the big one.

padilla03z 10-24-2015 08:39 PM

wait, you used a test light on your fuse and it was bad. did you check for continuity after you pulled it out? if your test light didn't come on when testing the fuse that sounds like it can only be the fuse. did you check the new fuse before and after install? maybe your system is shorting out and blowing the fuse immediately.

dboyzalter 10-25-2015 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by padilla03z (Post 10669921)
wait, you used a test light on your fuse and it was bad. did you check for continuity after you pulled it out? if your test light didn't come on when testing the fuse that sounds like it can only be the fuse. did you check the new fuse before and after install? maybe your system is shorting out and blowing the fuse immediately.

Sounds like the fuse was good but he wasnt getting power to that point...

It sucks when the people dont come back and tell us what it actually ended up being. Hard to diagnose a problem from across the country and then get no feedback on it.

Khris Chong 10-26-2015 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by PP08HR (Post 10669893)
If you bought the vehicle used make sure there is not an aftermarket alarm installed. Sometimes they can be activated after a battery dies and there may be a need to disable it.

No Aftermarket alarm system.

Khris Chong 10-26-2015 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by dboyzalter (Post 10669902)
Good advice. You also might want to try an alternative key. Sometimes when you get a used car some of the keys are not programmed to start the car. Just throwing that out there. All this great technology isnt always so great. If it has an aftermarket alarm look under the dash for the bypass switch. It probably doesn't have one but you might get lucky... If it did you pretty much just push it and hold it while you start the car... Aftermarket alarms really blow the big one.

Would a bad key allow power to my starter? I do hear a single click every time I turn the ignition.

Khris Chong 10-26-2015 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by dboyzalter (Post 10669994)
Sounds like the fuse was good but he wasnt getting power to that point...

It sucks when the people dont come back and tell us what it actually ended up being. Hard to diagnose a problem from across the country and then get no feedback on it.

Right. . . .Cuz if it was just a bad fuse. . . test light would light up on one side of the fuse. I wasn't getting a reading at all on either side. But I am wondering. . .is the fuse only activated during an actual crank of turning the ignition to start the car? Didn't try to test while cranking. Does anyone know the actual function for that particular fuse??

Khris Chong 10-26-2015 04:31 AM

I work like crazy, so my time is limited. I am trying to work on this issue when I do have the time. So it's been a slow process. What I had in mind next was replacing the clutch safety switch. Finding out about the "start signal" fuse. Someone did mention to me about the starter gear not lining up with the flywheel?? Don't know if thats a possibility or not? How can you tell if you have a bad relay in the IPDM? Seems like the starter relay differs from the rest. Sorry, I'm just throwing stuff out there. . . . Haven't drove her in a month! I just want my baby back, lol.

dboyzalter 10-26-2015 05:19 AM

Did you bench test the starter? Single click from the starter is usually a bad starter... Sometimes it's a bad bar and sometimes your engine is seized up (usually it clicks and smokes) your new starter might be a dud. If it clicks its getting power and trying to work. Have you tried push starting ?

Khris Chong 11-07-2015 03:23 AM

Have had the starter tested. It's still good. I've manually turned the engine at the crank, cuz I thought. . . worst case scenario. Gave it 2 solid good turns. Doesn't seem locked up at all. Have tried push starting as well.

padilla03z 11-07-2015 05:02 AM

So push starting doesn't work? The fuse doesn't ever close so if u got continuity through it ur good.

dboyzalter 11-07-2015 06:27 AM

My guess is that when you jumped the other car when you unhooked the cables a surge of some sort happened and it decided to release its energy in the ecu because that's what was on.

Im not saying you didn't but you should always have your headlights on or you blower on when unhooking jumper leads so any spikes your alternator is putting out have a place to escape (use spiked energy)

Thats how I've come to understand it anyways... Just sucks because your trying to help someone out and you end up screwing yourself.

Syner 11-10-2015 07:38 AM

Where was this about unhooking for a jump? If the battery is connected, it will buffer.

CK12983 11-11-2015 06:19 PM

take it to autozone to get codes read

Syner 11-11-2015 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by CK12983 (Post 10679778)
take it to autozone to get codes read

Where, in any of the OP's comments, did he ever mention a code being thrown?

travlee 11-11-2015 06:30 PM

OP hasn't logged in since he started this thread.... prob won't be back

Syner 11-12-2015 05:53 AM

I think he forgot his login because he started commenting with Khris Chong


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