This deserves it's own thread: Stock rods vs. Pauter Forged Rods
 

Special thanks to Ravaz for posting these pics in another thread. I hope we can now all agree that the stock rods are very wimpy. :)

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BEEFIE!!!

very Nice...

Nice...Thoes are some really beffy rods

Its like night and day. :eek:

No wonder mine went ... Very nice... Can't wait to put those in

Will the group buy Pauter CR's arrive before the APS TT kit?

No wonder they are breaking, good post. BTW, GQ, how's the car coming along?

Hey GQ,

You said in another thread that pauter makes Ti rods. Do you have anymore specs on those rods?, any pics?.

Those are bad *** rods, but cost 800 a piece! http://www.pauter.com/titanium.htm

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Another shot here you can see the oil hole at the top where the wrist pin goes through, I beleive these to be second to none. Pic of rod is the one AEBS supplies with stroker kit.

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Thats the stroker crank on the ground

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Did you get that kit?

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The Pauter Rods with the oil squirter through the center of the Rods are these AEBS only or are they standard on all the Pauter rods for our car?

Yes...the rods should be ready to ship the first or second week of Oct at the latest. I believe the APS kit should be dealers by the end of Oct.



Thanks for asking. :) They are just detailing the car, and doing a final wheel alignment on it. I'll have it this week, but I am going to LA this week, so I might have to pick it up over the weekend or something.



They are optional. I didnt ask how much extra. This is also something that your engine builder/machine shop can do for you as well.

Thanks GQ.

Those stock rods look amazingly strong. Idk what you guys are talkig about.




*cough.

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So, they're using floating wrist pins?

When I was building Chevy race motors, the preferred setup was to use pressed in wrist pins. That eliminated the wrist pin to little rod end wear, gave better perpendicularity, eliminated the need for keepers, etc. Using pressed in wrist pins is stronger, lasts longer, and eliminates engine failures due to hammered out keepers. Downside is that you need a press to change pistons, but if you don't plan on doing a lot of piston swaps, that's not a big deal.

What about weight? The stock con rod and especially piston looks much lighter, how do they compare in weight?

(thinking about impact on general responsivness before boost)

Also ive heard that Supercharging may cause other problems then breaking rods, are these pistons better for this application, any opinions?

(Im getting a 350Z to next summer with supercharging in mind :) )

Also i assume that these rods are equal lenght as the stock ones = stock compression?

/Roger

Yes, most modern engines and aftermarket applications use floating wrist pins. You can see the locks on the stock piston in photo above. I havent seen it done any other way other than locks and floating wrist pins.

These rods are slightly heavier than stock, which is really the only way to go. With F/I applications, you need strength, rather than lightness. So forged steel rods for this application will always be slightly heavier than stock. Pauter makes some lightweight steel rods, but they are not suitable for F/I applications.

And yes, the rods are exactly the same length as stock. The compression drop comes from the pistons we are using.