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06-18-2002, 05:39 AM
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not that it's going to change my mind or anything. I have been so blown away by the style and price/performance of the Z that I have not given much thought to the interior Quality. I know nissan is making money on the Z and that the $26K (low price) has to be for a reason that is cost savings somewhere. So by now a lot of people have sat in the real car (not the show car) so can you give us a summary in general?
Lets say there is a spectrum of interior quality from the best 25% (audi, lexus, bently, etc..) and the worst 25% (I don't know the exact ones but take my mom's old K-car for example) that leaves the middle 50% with your accords,golfs, etc. Is it safe to say the Z will be in the middle group?
Lets say there is a spectrum of interior quality from the best 25% (audi, lexus, bently, etc..) and the worst 25% (I don't know the exact ones but take my mom's old K-car for example) that leaves the middle 50% with your accords,golfs, etc. Is it safe to say the Z will be in the middle group?
06-18-2002, 06:59 AM
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Here's my assessment after yesterday:
Likes
1. The "grainy" black plastic that makes up a significant portion of the interior (dash, center console around shifter on back towards the cupholders, behind the seats) is on par with that found in an E36 3 Series, a material that I like.
2. The covering for the vast expanse of each door is a nice, spongy, almost suede feel/look that is MUCH better than if it was all hard, lifeless plastic. It works well and has a "sports car" feel to it.
3. I'm OK with the center nav console material after seeing it in person (the plastic that looks like grey pigskin/football), but would be happier if it was simply a smooth finish instead. The good thing about the "pigskin" texture is that it will hide scratches well.
Dislikes
1. The carpeting in the Touring Daytona I saw yesterday was pretty nasty and so had such a high pile it looked like a **** carpet. I feel kind of ripped off by the trunk mat which was the nastiest of the three mats.
2. The Leather seats were kind of dissappointing. I'm hoping that the first few batches of leather are just an anomaly, because frankly, the leather was a bit on the hard and non-pliable side. Not even as soft as the leather on my former CL-S which I didn't consider to be of the highest (read: Audi) quality. The seating surfaces were smooth and had no "grain" like the Burnt Orange pre-production pics we saw so many months ago. My favorite leather right now is that found in the Volvo S60 which has this beautiful grain and suppleness that I was really hoping for in the Z. I know, I know, it's a sports car, but one of my criteria for ordering the Touring was the factory leather.
Overall, for the price point, I'd definitely say the interior is in league with the Acura/Infiniti offering and nothing to be overly ashamed of. Besides, your passengers aren't going to be saying, "this is too plasticky." while holding on for dear life.
Likes
1. The "grainy" black plastic that makes up a significant portion of the interior (dash, center console around shifter on back towards the cupholders, behind the seats) is on par with that found in an E36 3 Series, a material that I like.
2. The covering for the vast expanse of each door is a nice, spongy, almost suede feel/look that is MUCH better than if it was all hard, lifeless plastic. It works well and has a "sports car" feel to it.
3. I'm OK with the center nav console material after seeing it in person (the plastic that looks like grey pigskin/football), but would be happier if it was simply a smooth finish instead. The good thing about the "pigskin" texture is that it will hide scratches well.
Dislikes
1. The carpeting in the Touring Daytona I saw yesterday was pretty nasty and so had such a high pile it looked like a **** carpet. I feel kind of ripped off by the trunk mat which was the nastiest of the three mats.
2. The Leather seats were kind of dissappointing. I'm hoping that the first few batches of leather are just an anomaly, because frankly, the leather was a bit on the hard and non-pliable side. Not even as soft as the leather on my former CL-S which I didn't consider to be of the highest (read: Audi) quality. The seating surfaces were smooth and had no "grain" like the Burnt Orange pre-production pics we saw so many months ago. My favorite leather right now is that found in the Volvo S60 which has this beautiful grain and suppleness that I was really hoping for in the Z. I know, I know, it's a sports car, but one of my criteria for ordering the Touring was the factory leather.
Overall, for the price point, I'd definitely say the interior is in league with the Acura/Infiniti offering and nothing to be overly ashamed of. Besides, your passengers aren't going to be saying, "this is too plasticky." while holding on for dear life.
06-18-2002, 09:04 AM
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Interior quality
Here is my thread from the show in Austin a few days ago.
I hope I can get all of these pics up. I don't know how to post them. Can someone help?
But, in case I can't get them up here is my two cents on the details of the car, since some of you haven't seen the car in person.
Once again, this car has amazed me!!
Here are my topics:
1. Leather seats (specifically charcoal)
2. Nav Storage/door
3. Exhaust
4. Tires
5. BOSE Sound sytem
6. Materials
7. Storage Compartments
8. Extra Buttons
9. Rear View mirror
Before I start, I don't think that there is going to be one person that will be dissappointed with asthesics (materials, looks quality, etc...)of the car. Nissan has obviously gone to great lengths to refine the Z, yes even the antenna! As far as the engine and performance is concerned, we will have to wait to judge that.
First and foremost, the good news, I talked to the Mag writer and driver of the Z. He wouldn't give me any concrete HP numbers but he did say that they tested the car at 5.2 to 5.3 seconds. We've all heard so many HP numbers so I won't even go there, so take that for what its worth. Sounds good to me.
Charcoal Leather. The leather seats were absolutely great, very firm and comfotable as you would expect in a sports car. Seats were automatic, the controls for the driver were on the right side instead of by the door and vice versa for the passenger. However, the drivers seat had a front/back and recline feature the passenger's seat only had a front/back automatic and a manual recline located onm the seat by the door. I wish they were all automatic. The charcoal seats did have the orange dots, great contrast and very subtle. However, I did have a concern. I did notice (in the pic) that the holes were the orange dots were had some fiber like material that was coming out of them, NOT GOOD. Look at the bottom of the seat where your back rests and you can see the fibers coming out.
Nav storage/door. The storage compartment was small and about 3 inches deep, not sure what you could store there, cell phone perhaps? The NAV door/cover.. YUK YUK... they really need to fix this one. It definelty feels a little cheap and is difficult to close and is not solid, it twists as you close it. Nissan needs to fix this one. However, as long as it is closed or open you will be fine.
Exhaust, sounds incredible for a stock car, Mag writer said at idle it quieter but once on road it sounds much "louder,deeper and throatier". All I can say is that you will be very happy with the way the exhaust sounds!! It is not obnoxious by any means for you conservative folks.
Tires. The are defintely the RE040 Potenzas or whatever the exact number is. Don't like them!!! Pilots or Pole Positions would have been better.
Upgraded BOSE Sound system, sounded great and loud for stock, however, the bass seems to be pushing it a little. For those of yout that are stereo fanatics, this probably would not satisfy you. I must say that I expected a little more out of that system but it will make me happy enough.
Materials. I must say that my main concerned when I ordered this car back in March was that Nissan was going to use cheap interior materials to bring the price down. Boy, I WAS WRONG! Nissan has done an excellent job with the composition of the materials, especially with the metal/alluminum parts. It is not quite as refined as Audi TT but I must that is extremely close and hard to tell the difference quality wise. The doors were not a hard material but rather a soft padded, leather-like textured. The air vents also did not feel cheap, THANK GOD, in fact they were nice and firm similar to my AMG Merecedes. My favorite vents were the ones on the doors, great job!
Storage compartments. Were located behind the passengers seat and between the drive and passenger. You could defintely fit a backpack/ several CD cases or even a small breif case back there. As far as the trunk, it looks like plenty of room, golf bags obviously not a problem. However, you don't want to take the Z for your once a month grocery shopping list especially those with families, just not enough room for that much cargo.
Extra buttons. I noticed that next to the heated seats (center console) and where the TCS button, there was two empty buttons, don't know what those are for, aftermarket mods maybe or Japanese/Euro versions????
Rear View Mirror/Rear Strut Bar. Now for my only complaint. The rear view is extremely narrow due to the rear strut bar. Actually the entire field of view is limited in the back. I guess once we are more acustomed to the car we will learn to adjust.
Sorry for the long post, but I just wanted to let everyone know that details.
INCREDIBLE CAR!!! That's all I can say. Regardless of color or model we (pre-order folks) are all going to be very very very happy with our new purchase. I know I am!!!
I hope I can get all of these pics up. I don't know how to post them. Can someone help?
But, in case I can't get them up here is my two cents on the details of the car, since some of you haven't seen the car in person.
Once again, this car has amazed me!!
Here are my topics:
1. Leather seats (specifically charcoal)
2. Nav Storage/door
3. Exhaust
4. Tires
5. BOSE Sound sytem
6. Materials
7. Storage Compartments
8. Extra Buttons
9. Rear View mirror
Before I start, I don't think that there is going to be one person that will be dissappointed with asthesics (materials, looks quality, etc...)of the car. Nissan has obviously gone to great lengths to refine the Z, yes even the antenna! As far as the engine and performance is concerned, we will have to wait to judge that.
First and foremost, the good news, I talked to the Mag writer and driver of the Z. He wouldn't give me any concrete HP numbers but he did say that they tested the car at 5.2 to 5.3 seconds. We've all heard so many HP numbers so I won't even go there, so take that for what its worth. Sounds good to me.
Charcoal Leather. The leather seats were absolutely great, very firm and comfotable as you would expect in a sports car. Seats were automatic, the controls for the driver were on the right side instead of by the door and vice versa for the passenger. However, the drivers seat had a front/back and recline feature the passenger's seat only had a front/back automatic and a manual recline located onm the seat by the door. I wish they were all automatic. The charcoal seats did have the orange dots, great contrast and very subtle. However, I did have a concern. I did notice (in the pic) that the holes were the orange dots were had some fiber like material that was coming out of them, NOT GOOD. Look at the bottom of the seat where your back rests and you can see the fibers coming out.
Nav storage/door. The storage compartment was small and about 3 inches deep, not sure what you could store there, cell phone perhaps? The NAV door/cover.. YUK YUK... they really need to fix this one. It definelty feels a little cheap and is difficult to close and is not solid, it twists as you close it. Nissan needs to fix this one. However, as long as it is closed or open you will be fine.
Exhaust, sounds incredible for a stock car, Mag writer said at idle it quieter but once on road it sounds much "louder,deeper and throatier". All I can say is that you will be very happy with the way the exhaust sounds!! It is not obnoxious by any means for you conservative folks.
Tires. The are defintely the RE040 Potenzas or whatever the exact number is. Don't like them!!! Pilots or Pole Positions would have been better.
Upgraded BOSE Sound system, sounded great and loud for stock, however, the bass seems to be pushing it a little. For those of yout that are stereo fanatics, this probably would not satisfy you. I must say that I expected a little more out of that system but it will make me happy enough.
Materials. I must say that my main concerned when I ordered this car back in March was that Nissan was going to use cheap interior materials to bring the price down. Boy, I WAS WRONG! Nissan has done an excellent job with the composition of the materials, especially with the metal/alluminum parts. It is not quite as refined as Audi TT but I must that is extremely close and hard to tell the difference quality wise. The doors were not a hard material but rather a soft padded, leather-like textured. The air vents also did not feel cheap, THANK GOD, in fact they were nice and firm similar to my AMG Merecedes. My favorite vents were the ones on the doors, great job!
Storage compartments. Were located behind the passengers seat and between the drive and passenger. You could defintely fit a backpack/ several CD cases or even a small breif case back there. As far as the trunk, it looks like plenty of room, golf bags obviously not a problem. However, you don't want to take the Z for your once a month grocery shopping list especially those with families, just not enough room for that much cargo.
Extra buttons. I noticed that next to the heated seats (center console) and where the TCS button, there was two empty buttons, don't know what those are for, aftermarket mods maybe or Japanese/Euro versions????
Rear View Mirror/Rear Strut Bar. Now for my only complaint. The rear view is extremely narrow due to the rear strut bar. Actually the entire field of view is limited in the back. I guess once we are more acustomed to the car we will learn to adjust.
Sorry for the long post, but I just wanted to let everyone know that details.
INCREDIBLE CAR!!! That's all I can say. Regardless of color or model we (pre-order folks) are all going to be very very very happy with our new purchase. I know I am!!!
06-18-2002, 09:19 AM
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Okay, my 2 cents...
Definitely not a Lexus, Audi or Bimmer, don't even think about it.
Better than most current Nissan interiors.
I personally found the nicely appointed Accords (like the tricked-out Se-V6 with all the interior options) to be a good notch nicer than the Z.
A little too much hard plastic and some not-quite-flimsy-but-not-great-either lids on the nav and main cup holder area.
Doors were great, can't complain.
Brushed metal pices were awesome.
One of the nicest cloths seats I've seen.
Again, nicer than current Nissans I've been in, but not by a *great* deal.
Your mileage may vary...
Definitely not a Lexus, Audi or Bimmer, don't even think about it.
Better than most current Nissan interiors.
I personally found the nicely appointed Accords (like the tricked-out Se-V6 with all the interior options) to be a good notch nicer than the Z.
A little too much hard plastic and some not-quite-flimsy-but-not-great-either lids on the nav and main cup holder area.
Doors were great, can't complain.
Brushed metal pices were awesome.
One of the nicest cloths seats I've seen.
Again, nicer than current Nissans I've been in, but not by a *great* deal.
Your mileage may vary...
06-18-2002, 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by kevintari
...I personally found the nicely appointed Accords (like the tricked-out Se-V6 with all the interior options) to be a good notch nicer than the Z.
Again, nicer than current Nissans I've been in, but not by a *great* deal.
Your mileage may vary...
...I personally found the nicely appointed Accords (like the tricked-out Se-V6 with all the interior options) to be a good notch nicer than the Z.
Again, nicer than current Nissans I've been in, but not by a *great* deal.
Your mileage may vary...
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