So much greed in this World---->Evanston Dealership
11-21-2002, 04:24 PM
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So much greed in this World---->Evanston Dealership
I talked to the f.....g owner of the dealership that has my $1,000 deposit. There IS a tiny line on the back of the contract that says they can keep the $$$ as liquidated damages... I am screwed....
I talked to the owner & tried to convince him to let it go.....
I'm a college student paying for the car of my dreams with my own money.... I can't afford to loose $1,000 for NOTHING.
The GREEDY DICK not only will not give me NOT EVEN HALF, NOTHING, but he was a B*TCH about it. The only way is if I find them a buyer BEFORE the car gets there. They will not lose a penny on this car when they sell it, but he still won't give me a penny back.
Man, this world is filled with too many GREEDY A$$HOLES
I undersdand what I signed F*KED me over & it was my fault for not fully reading what I signed......so this is just a post to get my frustration out....... Disregard my ranting...
I talked to the owner & tried to convince him to let it go.....
I'm a college student paying for the car of my dreams with my own money.... I can't afford to loose $1,000 for NOTHING.
The GREEDY DICK not only will not give me NOT EVEN HALF, NOTHING, but he was a B*TCH about it. The only way is if I find them a buyer BEFORE the car gets there. They will not lose a penny on this car when they sell it, but he still won't give me a penny back.
Man, this world is filled with too many GREEDY A$$HOLES
I undersdand what I signed F*KED me over & it was my fault for not fully reading what I signed......so this is just a post to get my frustration out....... Disregard my ranting...
11-21-2002, 04:31 PM
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Re: So much greed in this World---->Evanston Dealership
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Man, this world is filled with too many GREEDY A$$HOLES
Man, this world is filled with too many GREEDY A$$HOLES
11-21-2002, 04:52 PM
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There IS a tiny line on the back of the contract that says they can keep the $$$ as liquidated damages... I am screwed....
If it was hidden on the back on the contact, and not pointed out... this is VERY fightable.
11-21-2002, 05:33 PM
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Bummer...
Couple other things you can do:
1) file a claim in small claims court - they might just settle to avoid showing up downtown to say how they screwed the little guy
2) insist that they document the "liquidated damages" to you in writing and refund the balance (you could see this by seeing what they sell the car for to someone else). Based on how that looks, re-consider option 1, or even demand they split the EXTRA money they'll probably make re-selling your car!
3) reserve a "insert dealername"nissansucks.com and threaten to put up a website documenting your experience.
However, you also have to consider their side of the story. You did back out of an agreement, so they are a bit exposed by this. It's fair to call them greedy, but it's also fair that they be reimbursed for the costs to them (if there end up being any) of your backing out without warning.
Good luck, man.
Couple other things you can do:
1) file a claim in small claims court - they might just settle to avoid showing up downtown to say how they screwed the little guy
2) insist that they document the "liquidated damages" to you in writing and refund the balance (you could see this by seeing what they sell the car for to someone else). Based on how that looks, re-consider option 1, or even demand they split the EXTRA money they'll probably make re-selling your car!
3) reserve a "insert dealername"nissansucks.com and threaten to put up a website documenting your experience.
However, you also have to consider their side of the story. You did back out of an agreement, so they are a bit exposed by this. It's fair to call them greedy, but it's also fair that they be reimbursed for the costs to them (if there end up being any) of your backing out without warning.
Good luck, man.
11-21-2002, 05:36 PM
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If you used your credit card for the deposit, utilize the credit card's buyer protection policy. Call customer service for advice. It's cheaper than getting a lawyer.
I once had a used car dealer pull the same stunt. I didn't argue with the a**hole for a second. Instead I called MasterCard, disputed the charge, and was never obligated to pay the stealer's charge.
Dean
I once had a used car dealer pull the same stunt. I didn't argue with the a**hole for a second. Instead I called MasterCard, disputed the charge, and was never obligated to pay the stealer's charge.
Dean
11-21-2002, 06:50 PM
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: 3) reserve a "insert dealername"nissansucks.com and threaten to put up a website documenting your experience.
If you want to reserve the name and put up a site, that's OK. It's free speech. But if you threaten them, that's extortion, and they could take you to court for that.
You're best off just playing it straight, and you'll almost certainly win a case like this. I'm pretty sure they'd settle anyway.
And also, don't threaten to take them to court. Ask for you money back, and if they say no, let the court tell them. That's the safest way.
If you want to reserve the name and put up a site, that's OK. It's free speech. But if you threaten them, that's extortion, and they could take you to court for that.
You're best off just playing it straight, and you'll almost certainly win a case like this. I'm pretty sure they'd settle anyway.
And also, don't threaten to take them to court. Ask for you money back, and if they say no, let the court tell them. That's the safest way.
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11-22-2002, 12:35 PM
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This is kind of a stupid question......
How do I file a claim? Will I need a lawyer? Is this going to cost me? & if so, will it be worth $1,000?
Is there a simple number I can call to file this? Anyone know good lawyers that can help me out with a free consultation & then maybe receive their fees upon collection? I have never done this, obviously.
Thanks for Help guys!!!
Marcin
How do I file a claim? Will I need a lawyer? Is this going to cost me? & if so, will it be worth $1,000?
Is there a simple number I can call to file this? Anyone know good lawyers that can help me out with a free consultation & then maybe receive their fees upon collection? I have never done this, obviously.
Thanks for Help guys!!!
Marcin
11-22-2002, 11:09 PM
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not sure i have the story right but will assume you pre ordered, put a deposit down, then cancelled. big deal. i did the same thing here in daytona beach.......i ordered 2, both in june at seperate dealers. one with, the other without stick..............at the time i was not sure so i figured i would cover myself. anyhow, i decided to take the one the way god intended this car to be.......with stick..haha..................called the other dealer and told him to refund my card for the 1500 that i decided to pass. he says he cant cause its a pre order, non refundable,,...blah blah blah................so big tul says to him, look you little runt pion, have your friggin boss call me( no this is not a bad jerky boys impression)...............i now get the manager on the phone and say, look dude, do the refund today, or else i come in oct21st when the car is due to arrive, pay for the dam thing, then sell it myself for a nice little profit the next day......pain in the *** but i would have. or, i told him, he could give me my dam money today and then mark the hot ticket item up 5,000 over msrp(since it would now be theres to do so) and make a huge profit..........................amazing how he saw the light and was glad to refund my deposit.....................greed, its a beautiful thing!!!!...........ya know, for them even trying me like that, i should have just bought it , then sold it for what i had into it just to give it to them in the *** like they do us.............OUCH!!!!!...............hope you enjoyed my experience.
11-22-2002, 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by bigtul4u
not sure i have the story right but will assume you pre ordered, put a deposit down, then cancelled. big deal. i did the same thing here in daytona beach.......i ordered 2, both in june at seperate dealers. one with, the other without stick..............at the time i was not sure so i figured i would cover myself. anyhow, i decided to take the one the way god intended this car to be.......with stick..haha..................called the other dealer and told him to refund my card for the 1500 that i decided to pass. he says he cant cause its a pre order, non refundable,,...blah blah blah................so big tul says to him, look you little runt pion, have your friggin boss call me( no this is not a bad jerky boys impression)...............i now get the manager on the phone and say, look dude, do the refund today, or else i come in oct21st when the car is due to arrive, pay for the dam thing, then sell it myself for a nice little profit the next day......pain in the *** but i would have. or, i told him, he could give me my dam money today and then mark the hot ticket item up 5,000 over msrp(since it would now be theres to do so) and make a huge profit..........................amazing how he saw the light and was glad to refund my deposit.....................greed, its a beautiful thing!!!!...........ya know, for them even trying me like that, i should have just bought it , then sold it for what i had into it just to give it to them in the *** like they do us.............OUCH!!!!!...............hope you enjoyed my experience.
not sure i have the story right but will assume you pre ordered, put a deposit down, then cancelled. big deal. i did the same thing here in daytona beach.......i ordered 2, both in june at seperate dealers. one with, the other without stick..............at the time i was not sure so i figured i would cover myself. anyhow, i decided to take the one the way god intended this car to be.......with stick..haha..................called the other dealer and told him to refund my card for the 1500 that i decided to pass. he says he cant cause its a pre order, non refundable,,...blah blah blah................so big tul says to him, look you little runt pion, have your friggin boss call me( no this is not a bad jerky boys impression)...............i now get the manager on the phone and say, look dude, do the refund today, or else i come in oct21st when the car is due to arrive, pay for the dam thing, then sell it myself for a nice little profit the next day......pain in the *** but i would have. or, i told him, he could give me my dam money today and then mark the hot ticket item up 5,000 over msrp(since it would now be theres to do so) and make a huge profit..........................amazing how he saw the light and was glad to refund my deposit.....................greed, its a beautiful thing!!!!...........ya know, for them even trying me like that, i should have just bought it , then sold it for what i had into it just to give it to them in the *** like they do us.............OUCH!!!!!...............hope you enjoyed my experience.
11-23-2002, 12:10 AM
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Well I may have been wrong before. The BBB says car deposits are non-refundable. Someone else says there's a federal law to the contrary.
So you might just look up a lawyer in the yellow pages and ask if you'd have a case here. Just ask the lawyer your questions, like if it's worth it. He might say no, but if you're nice and everything, I imagine he'd just tell you something worthwhile.
To file a small claim you just have to call your city or county court and ask them about it.
PhoenixINX has a good plan I think. Give the dealer a choice, and make them realize they have more to gain by refunding you.
Then again, you can always carry around a big sign on a Saturday saying they won't refund your money
But I wouldn't do that!
So you might just look up a lawyer in the yellow pages and ask if you'd have a case here. Just ask the lawyer your questions, like if it's worth it. He might say no, but if you're nice and everything, I imagine he'd just tell you something worthwhile.
To file a small claim you just have to call your city or county court and ask them about it.
PhoenixINX has a good plan I think. Give the dealer a choice, and make them realize they have more to gain by refunding you.
Then again, you can always carry around a big sign on a Saturday saying they won't refund your money
But I wouldn't do that!
11-23-2002, 12:14 AM
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dude.. here's how the dealer fu**ed themselves.. they said 'liquidated damages'... if you take them to the court, they would have to prove that they indeed had some damages. Now, this will never going to happen cos they will for sure sell the car for profit.. take them to court and before that, yes ask them to give you exact accounting for the damages.. good luck.
By the way, for small claims court, you don't need a lawyer. Just go to your local court and ask to fime a claim. It probably cost $20/$30
yeah, make sure you tell them to give you a written document how they were damaged..
By the way, for small claims court, you don't need a lawyer. Just go to your local court and ask to fime a claim. It probably cost $20/$30
yeah, make sure you tell them to give you a written document how they were damaged..
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Listen to Porschekiller. Liquidate damages are going to be impossible to prove. Make sure you show up with ebay or some other classifieds that prove the cars popularity and value. If it was sitting on the lot..then you're screwed; advertising, interest, blah blah.
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DAMN! I am a college student too, so I know exactly how you feel about that $1G deposit........hope you get your money back, but dont do anything stupid tho(shoot out rampage in the dealer), money can always be earned later..life cant.
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Originally posted by Phatmitzu
DAMN! I am a college student too, so I know exactly how you feel about that $1G deposit........hope you get your money back, but dont do anything stupid tho(shoot out rampage in the dealer), money can always be earned later..life cant.
DAMN! I am a college student too, so I know exactly how you feel about that $1G deposit........hope you get your money back, but dont do anything stupid tho(shoot out rampage in the dealer), money can always be earned later..life cant.
Let's hope not. Stay cool everybody!
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Re: So much greed in this World---->Evanston Dealership
Originally posted by mpol99
I talked to the f.....g owner of the dealership that has my $1,000 deposit. There IS a tiny line on the back of the contract that says they can keep the $$$ as liquidated damages... I am screwed....
I talked to the owner & tried to convince him to let it go.....
I'm a college student paying for the car of my dreams with my own money.... I can't afford to loose $1,000 for NOTHING.
The GREEDY DICK not only will not give me NOT EVEN HALF, NOTHING, but he was a B*TCH about it. The only way is if I find them a buyer BEFORE the car gets there. They will not lose a penny on this car when they sell it, but he still won't give me a penny back.
Man, this world is filled with too many GREEDY A$$HOLES
I undersdand what I signed F*KED me over & it was my fault for not fully reading what I signed......so this is just a post to get my frustration out....... Disregard my ranting...
I talked to the f.....g owner of the dealership that has my $1,000 deposit. There IS a tiny line on the back of the contract that says they can keep the $$$ as liquidated damages... I am screwed....
I talked to the owner & tried to convince him to let it go.....
I'm a college student paying for the car of my dreams with my own money.... I can't afford to loose $1,000 for NOTHING.
The GREEDY DICK not only will not give me NOT EVEN HALF, NOTHING, but he was a B*TCH about it. The only way is if I find them a buyer BEFORE the car gets there. They will not lose a penny on this car when they sell it, but he still won't give me a penny back.
Man, this world is filled with too many GREEDY A$$HOLES
I undersdand what I signed F*KED me over & it was my fault for not fully reading what I signed......so this is just a post to get my frustration out....... Disregard my ranting...
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How about all of our 7,400 members, call the dealership. We can all politely ask this guy to refund the $1000. His phones would be going crazy. I can't believe this guy is being a di_k over that kind of money. As if the Z will sit and rot on the lot. I'll be suprised if he couldn't sell it within 2 weeks.
Come on guys...Lets do a telephone campaign for mpoll99!
Come on guys...Lets do a telephone campaign for mpoll99!
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I would ask for the deposit back again and if they say NO then threaten to sue and go to the local t.v. station's, like ch. 2 's investigators to publicly expose their greed. Then see what the dealer says then.
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Honestly? I don't think the 350Zs are selling as well as they thought they would.
My dealer happily refunded my deposit, and then marked up the car $10,000. Everyone was politely suggesting that I buy the car and then sell it on my own.
But you know what? I did a little looking around... another local dealer now has two Zs sitting out in front on the lot. There were 3 in the newspaper classifieds. I even saw one FS on the side of the road... I think things have gotten worse since the G35 Coupe came out - not only are a lot of people liking the infinity more, but at least around here - the nissan dealers are trying to mark the Zs up and the infinity dealers are not - so a loaded infinity is CHEAPER than a loaded Z !!
Good luck getting your deposit back, that sucks that they don't want to... If you're going to a "big" college, ask around and see if they have any kind of legal services available to students, sometimes they do. But I think the truth is, if you signed something that said non-refundable - I'm not sure you'll get anywhere. I would definitely pursue the matter though, don't let them keep your $$$!!
My dealer happily refunded my deposit, and then marked up the car $10,000. Everyone was politely suggesting that I buy the car and then sell it on my own.
But you know what? I did a little looking around... another local dealer now has two Zs sitting out in front on the lot. There were 3 in the newspaper classifieds. I even saw one FS on the side of the road... I think things have gotten worse since the G35 Coupe came out - not only are a lot of people liking the infinity more, but at least around here - the nissan dealers are trying to mark the Zs up and the infinity dealers are not - so a loaded infinity is CHEAPER than a loaded Z !!
Good luck getting your deposit back, that sucks that they don't want to... If you're going to a "big" college, ask around and see if they have any kind of legal services available to students, sometimes they do. But I think the truth is, if you signed something that said non-refundable - I'm not sure you'll get anywhere. I would definitely pursue the matter though, don't let them keep your $$$!!
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