Would you buy a Hybrid Z?
Look 100 years into the future and invision the massive graveyards FULL of dead hybrid batteries, decaying into the soil, killing everything in site. The myth that hybrid cars are better for the environment is a short-sighted lie, IMHO. They're better NOW, sure. But something has to be done with the hundreds of pounds of dead batteries coming out of these cars.
Battery technology is improving faster than hybrid technology. Ask anyone in Japan, their batteries make ours look like a 1970's computer. By the time Hybrids are a norm, most of the kinks should already have been worked out.
Besides, batteries will also a think of the past, its all about the fuel cells, no moving parts, no chemicals, no junk.
Besides, batteries will also a think of the past, its all about the fuel cells, no moving parts, no chemicals, no junk.
if ur buying a z means u obviously have some money!!! if ur buying the car then worrying about gas prices ?? theres a problem!! maybe u shoulnt of bought the car !!! who cares wether its 3 or 5 bucks!! ill still roll ... buy an electric on the side...!! thats almost like saying ferrari making a hybrid?? just doesnt work that way !!!
I would have to disagree on the life span, cost and disposal of Hybrid batteries.
The technology is improving and like everything else, when demand increases cost goes down. I am sure Toyota/Honda and other manufacturers are working hard on improving the technology and reducing cost. I think the big issue as someone pointed out is the resistance from the Big Oil.
This is taken from Green Car Journal:
“The hybrid battery packs are designed to last for the lifetime of the vehicle, somewhere between 150,000 and 200,000 miles, probably a whole lot longer. The warranty covers the batteries for between eight and ten years, depending on the car maker.
Hybrids use NiMH batteries, not the environmentally problematic rechargeable nickel cadmium. "Nickel metal hydride batteries are benign. They can be fully recycled," says Ron Cogan, editor of the Green Car Journal. Toyota and Honda say that they will recycle dead batteries and that disposal will pose no toxic hazards. Toyota puts a phone number on each battery, and they pay a $200 "bounty" for each battery to help ensure that it will be properly recycled.
There's no definitive word on replacement costs because they are almost never replaced. According to Toyota, since the Prius first went on sale in 2000, they have not replaced a single battery for wear and tear.” even with Hybrid taxis that have 200k miles on them.
The technology is improving and like everything else, when demand increases cost goes down. I am sure Toyota/Honda and other manufacturers are working hard on improving the technology and reducing cost. I think the big issue as someone pointed out is the resistance from the Big Oil.
This is taken from Green Car Journal:
“The hybrid battery packs are designed to last for the lifetime of the vehicle, somewhere between 150,000 and 200,000 miles, probably a whole lot longer. The warranty covers the batteries for between eight and ten years, depending on the car maker.
Hybrids use NiMH batteries, not the environmentally problematic rechargeable nickel cadmium. "Nickel metal hydride batteries are benign. They can be fully recycled," says Ron Cogan, editor of the Green Car Journal. Toyota and Honda say that they will recycle dead batteries and that disposal will pose no toxic hazards. Toyota puts a phone number on each battery, and they pay a $200 "bounty" for each battery to help ensure that it will be properly recycled.
There's no definitive word on replacement costs because they are almost never replaced. According to Toyota, since the Prius first went on sale in 2000, they have not replaced a single battery for wear and tear.” even with Hybrid taxis that have 200k miles on them.
Keep in mind the Accord Hybrid costs about 30K msrp--- A LOT more than the base model accord... so think of how much a similar "Z" hybrid would cost if they want to keep the same (if not greater) bhp.
If the hybrid version put out as much torque and horsepower I wouldn't have a problem with it. However, I love my car because of the sound and the feel of it. If it were a hybrid and started on battery power alone then it wouldn't be the same.
Ok - so after giving everyone a chance to answer, I did a quick poll and here are the results:
The question was: would you buy a Hybrid Z:
The results:
Yes: 18
No: 7
Maybe: 5
Should we notify Nissan to start production
The question was: would you buy a Hybrid Z:
The results:
Yes: 18
No: 7
Maybe: 5
Should we notify Nissan to start production
Originally Posted by Zexy
I vote YES, but not replace gasoline motors either.
Updated
The question was: would you buy a Hybrid Z?
The results:
Yes: 19
No: 7
Maybe: 5
Should we notify Nissan to start production
lithium phosphate the next gen non poluting battery
http://powerelectronics.com/news/tra...ion/index.html
http://powerelectronics.com/news/tra...ion/index.html
I wouldn't quite call Hybrid sports cars a guarantee yet, but Mitsubishi played with the idea on their current Eclipse before sticking w/ a gas only engine, Toyota is rumored to be testing it in the form of their LF-A concept supercar and Honda is also heard to be considering it for their next gen NSX...like it or not I'd say its a pretty good bet that you'll see a hybrid sports car within 3-5 yrs.
Would I buy a hybrid Z? Probably not... While gas prices are through the roof, I chose to drive a Z and I'm going to have to stick with that. If you want economy, make something else your DD. Unless there is a dramatic change in the hybrid world that doesn't rob the soul of the Z away, I'd probably never consider a hybrid Z.
Originally Posted by nicolaycastro
A little off topic but I got the Autoweek magazine and they had a MIEV Evo, with electric motors for each wheel and some other things to economize gas. What made me curious was that it had 67 hp and 382 lb-ft of torque ????
OKAY found the link because tired of hearing post ****** saying useless post without pics. It was a B!tch to find so please comment.
http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?...751&fSetId=381
From the show, I gathered from the show that Chinese wanted to buy the technology from the Japs. They didn't want to spend the R&D to figure it out themselves and offered the company a massive loot to buy the technology as well as the car. But the Japs told them to take a hike.
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