I got rear ended in my Z and now there may be retaliation against me...
you did not call the cops when it happened...nothing you can do about it now.
mind as well screw the insurance thing now...get some estimates, get some cash from him and call it a day.
And next time, call the cops and your insurance co on the spot...if you call, they WILL show up
Might want to get your parents involved now as well if they are not already.
mind as well screw the insurance thing now...get some estimates, get some cash from him and call it a day.
And next time, call the cops and your insurance co on the spot...if you call, they WILL show up
Might want to get your parents involved now as well if they are not already.
This is why I don't go to meets of this kind.
You need to find someone who is a witness that will vouch for your side of the story. You know the guys that were there will probably take his side of the story if he chooses to change it.
You need to find someone who is a witness that will vouch for your side of the story. You know the guys that were there will probably take his side of the story if he chooses to change it.
Last edited by Armitage; Sep 26, 2005 at 07:29 PM.
I Got rear ended about a year ago, not in my Z. The guy did the whole song and dance about howmy car wasnt badly damaged and he could toss a $300 dollar bumper cover on the car and all would be well. It turns out dookie didn't have any insurance and thats why he didn't want the cops on the scene for a report. Actual cost from the body shop was $5400. In Pa if you can walk away (no injuries) from an accident and both vehicles are driveable (no Tow Trucks or Flatbeds needed), the cops dont really want to be bothered. I'd bet that your "Hommie" let his insurance lapse, and he would say anything to keep insurance companies involved. Call your insurance company and explain you werent sure how to handle the issue but you need to give them additional details. The only persone you have to convince now is your agent. If you are not in the wrong then you dont have anything to worry about. Your agent will look for inconsistancies in your story, it's how they protect the their clients from fraud. If your worried about retaliation from him then you might want to find a new place to hang.
Originally Posted by kcobean
And then when you get busted for illegally carrying a concealed weapon (because said a-hole called in an anonymous tip), you can trade your Z in for a can of vaseline so that being butt-raped in the local jail doesn't hurt so bad. Escalating a bad decision on his part into illegal activity on yours isn't the way to handle this one.
Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
you did not call the cops when it happened...nothing you can do about it now.
mind as well screw the insurance thing now...get some estimates, get some cash from him and call it a day.
And next time, call the cops and your insurance co on the spot...if you call, they WILL show up
Might want to get your parents involved now as well if they are not already.
mind as well screw the insurance thing now...get some estimates, get some cash from him and call it a day.
And next time, call the cops and your insurance co on the spot...if you call, they WILL show up
Might want to get your parents involved now as well if they are not already.
ok most of this has been gone over...but first off I always call the cops in the event of an accident, small or not, unless its extremely minor and I get full info and cooperation from the other person. if the other guy even cops a small attitude I'm on the phone. its not worth dealing with it and that is exactly why you have insurance. now given that you've already reported to your insurance co and you have witnesses and especially video footage, you should be perfectly fine as far as your car goes. even if the other dude doesn't have insurance, the worst that can happen is that you'll have to pay your own deductable which you will get back once your insurance company goes after the other guy for the repair damage.
in terms of protecting your car, reporting your concerns to the police won't do anything unless you tell them that he directly threatened you and your property, but even then nothing may come of it. but at least it'll be on record that you supected that person. if that guy knows where you live and where you typically park your car I'd change your habits and park elsewhere if possible and maybe put a car cover on your car to conceal it. theres not too much else you can do beyond that if you don't have a garage. although if your 17 yrs old you could actually lay the smack down on this guy and probably get away with probation even if you got busted for it since your not an adult (not that I condone that course of action). other than that just make sure you keep a good record of any interaction you might have with the guy in case you need it later...good luck.
in terms of protecting your car, reporting your concerns to the police won't do anything unless you tell them that he directly threatened you and your property, but even then nothing may come of it. but at least it'll be on record that you supected that person. if that guy knows where you live and where you typically park your car I'd change your habits and park elsewhere if possible and maybe put a car cover on your car to conceal it. theres not too much else you can do beyond that if you don't have a garage. although if your 17 yrs old you could actually lay the smack down on this guy and probably get away with probation even if you got busted for it since your not an adult (not that I condone that course of action). other than that just make sure you keep a good record of any interaction you might have with the guy in case you need it later...good luck.
You can always file a police report anytime. Basically this seals the deal as far as the police see it and adds legitemacy to your case for your insurance company.
On another note: do a search here for a guy that mounted a video camera inside his car. A cheap one will do as long as it has low-light capibility, since this guy will roll at night.
On another note: do a search here for a guy that mounted a video camera inside his car. A cheap one will do as long as it has low-light capibility, since this guy will roll at night.
[QUOTE=sigsauer87]Well I am pretty upset...I have been for the past few days.
Now, he says that he's gonna report me to my insurance saying I backed into him. HAAH!
That sucks, it hurts and its very frustrating
Dosent matter, (at least in Canada this is the way it goes...)
As soon as someone rearends your car, wheather they did it or for example your car was at a red light where the road is up-sloped, and the first car in line rolled back a little bit,
ITS AUTOMATICLY THE OTHER GUY FAULT!!!
Does the same principal apply in the US?
Now, he says that he's gonna report me to my insurance saying I backed into him. HAAH!
That sucks, it hurts and its very frustrating
Dosent matter, (at least in Canada this is the way it goes...)
As soon as someone rearends your car, wheather they did it or for example your car was at a red light where the road is up-sloped, and the first car in line rolled back a little bit,
ITS AUTOMATICLY THE OTHER GUY FAULT!!!
Does the same principal apply in the US?
Always keep a camera in your car to take shots of the actual incident. This is a very powerful piece of evidence or make a police report. I had a similar encounter where a commercial truck backed into me and when I reported it to my Insurance they told me he stated I rear-ended him. I wouldn't let it bother you too much because there are a lot of dishonest people who won't man up to their actions in this world. Let your insurance do the work for you, but make sure to tell them everything including what he said. Good luck.
It is NOT too late to contact police.
Some would suggest that you should have called police at the time of the original incident, but even then--in your case-- due to the minor extent of damage, they would most likely not have responded. Why? Because if you were in a parking lot of most stores or shopping centers, it is considered private property. That is not to say anything can go down in a parking lot without police involvement.
What can you do? Call the police non-emergency line. Discuss the incident and everything that ensued with the dispatcher. Most agencies will at least take a brief "incident" report rather than issue a "case #." Some local agencies may refer to it by another name. Other agencies may request that you come to the station to fill it out.
In addition, just by phoning in and making a complaint (and requesting documentation) the dispatcher should record (i.e. type) your complaint into the CAD system (Computer Assisted Dispatch). Again, some agencies may use different terminology. Be sure to obtain the "incident" report number.
Either way, your concern now becomes documented by police. If anything should follow, reference can now be made to your first complaint. Better late than never!
Often in a busy town with a low staffed police department, you may not be referred directly to a police officer to handle this type of concern. Don't be surprised, though, if you do go to your local agency and get an officer to discuss your situation. You may be surprised and relieved.
I wish you the best and keep us posted.
Some would suggest that you should have called police at the time of the original incident, but even then--in your case-- due to the minor extent of damage, they would most likely not have responded. Why? Because if you were in a parking lot of most stores or shopping centers, it is considered private property. That is not to say anything can go down in a parking lot without police involvement.
What can you do? Call the police non-emergency line. Discuss the incident and everything that ensued with the dispatcher. Most agencies will at least take a brief "incident" report rather than issue a "case #." Some local agencies may refer to it by another name. Other agencies may request that you come to the station to fill it out.
In addition, just by phoning in and making a complaint (and requesting documentation) the dispatcher should record (i.e. type) your complaint into the CAD system (Computer Assisted Dispatch). Again, some agencies may use different terminology. Be sure to obtain the "incident" report number.
Either way, your concern now becomes documented by police. If anything should follow, reference can now be made to your first complaint. Better late than never!
Often in a busy town with a low staffed police department, you may not be referred directly to a police officer to handle this type of concern. Don't be surprised, though, if you do go to your local agency and get an officer to discuss your situation. You may be surprised and relieved.
I wish you the best and keep us posted.
Originally Posted by cessna
That sucks, it hurts and its very frustrating
Dosent matter, (at least in Canada this is the way it goes...)
As soon as someone rearends your car, wheather they did it or for example your car was at a red light where the road is up-sloped, and the first car in line rolled back a little bit,
ITS AUTOMATICLY THE OTHER GUY FAULT!!!
Does the same principal apply in the US?
heres my 2 cents.......
(Speaking on behalf of MY DEPARTMENT because other agencies work different but generally in So Cali there the same)
Working in LE in California for the past three years let me give you some advice. First the accident, even if you would of called at the time *California state law does not require accident reports for NON-injury accidents* So police would not of responded (if we responded to every non injury accident we would need 100,000 officers). Second, its not considered a hit and run because you exchanged insurance information. Also, if you called our dispatch there would be no "CAD- Computer Assisted Dispatch" report because it is only documented when officers respond or there is a "call for service". My suggestion is document everything on your own. Get witnesses who witnessed the accident/threat to write down what they saw. Chances of retaliation are slim to nill (No driving down the street does not constitute stalking). ALSO even if you go outside one morning and you found someone threw a 50lbs brick through your rear window and this was not witnessed by anyone we have to have PROBABLE CAUSE to effect an arrrest. Your statements that "he said he would do this" does not constitute probable cause. Short of him confessing to the crime nothing would be done short of a report documenting what happens. IN CASE SOMETHING happen. you have great grounds for a civil lawsuit. Keep in mind criminal proceedings you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt (100-0 evidence, witness, etc). In civil proceedings it is whoever has the Most evidence (49-51) hope that kinda makes sense. I know this isnt too helpful i just dont want you calling your local jurisdiction and if they dont take a report get all bent outta shape at the officer. I do mostly reading on these forums (because i aint the smartest car tech) but when there is a questionabout law i like to chime in)
(Speaking on behalf of MY DEPARTMENT because other agencies work different but generally in So Cali there the same)
Working in LE in California for the past three years let me give you some advice. First the accident, even if you would of called at the time *California state law does not require accident reports for NON-injury accidents* So police would not of responded (if we responded to every non injury accident we would need 100,000 officers). Second, its not considered a hit and run because you exchanged insurance information. Also, if you called our dispatch there would be no "CAD- Computer Assisted Dispatch" report because it is only documented when officers respond or there is a "call for service". My suggestion is document everything on your own. Get witnesses who witnessed the accident/threat to write down what they saw. Chances of retaliation are slim to nill (No driving down the street does not constitute stalking). ALSO even if you go outside one morning and you found someone threw a 50lbs brick through your rear window and this was not witnessed by anyone we have to have PROBABLE CAUSE to effect an arrrest. Your statements that "he said he would do this" does not constitute probable cause. Short of him confessing to the crime nothing would be done short of a report documenting what happens. IN CASE SOMETHING happen. you have great grounds for a civil lawsuit. Keep in mind criminal proceedings you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt (100-0 evidence, witness, etc). In civil proceedings it is whoever has the Most evidence (49-51) hope that kinda makes sense. I know this isnt too helpful i just dont want you calling your local jurisdiction and if they dont take a report get all bent outta shape at the officer. I do mostly reading on these forums (because i aint the smartest car tech) but when there is a questionabout law i like to chime in)



